Cigarette Company Told To Pay $23.6 Billion to Wife of Cancer Victim

Did you watch the commercial? It’s misleading and is an obvious attempt to make the spread seem like a healthy choice. Of course the woman mentioned in the suit should have known better but that is not the point of the lawsuit in my opinion. Companies need to learn that they can’t pretend their product is something it isn’t.

I’m not familiar with current CA law but they definitely seem to have more of these lawsuits and settlements. It’s very interesting. Perhaps I should have stuck around in CA.

Usually the FDA is supposed to fine companies for misleading commercials.

There have actually been a few of these types of commercials historically. For instance Listerine claimed it could cure the common cold. Kraft cheese product claimed it was good for you and was like real cheese (Kraft cheese slices are basically just oil and some other crap, they’re not actual cheese for the most part).

Most of these ads only run for 4-6 months max and then stop airing, so the FDA usually can’t get around to doing anything. Actually it might be the FCC that handles it. It’s some agency, I forget now. I remember wanting to work for the FCC but my crappy law school forgot to send in my bar certification and the FCC couldn’t hire me. They actually called me up telling me they couldn’t do anything without it. It’s actually pretty rare for a government agency to just call somebody up like that. If I was at the FCC you people would have gotten better internet by now. Oh well.

maybe like half of marijuana users i know also smoke cigarettes. cigarettes to weed is like alcohol to coffee, they don’t really serve the same purpose

I think i stated at least twice that i’m an addict, so i don’t see the point of the first part about appreciating addiction and how little i know. Maybe it’s a problem of “Different Country, Different Perspective”, who knows. Maybe, my only lack of knowledge about the Tobacco Companies that tamper analysis and things like that in the US is that, being from Europe, we may have different controls, health warnings, regulations and so on.

The problem with responsibility of Tobacco Companies (and do mind, i understand and respect the point you’re making, i just don’t share the same view) is, at least based on how i see it, is that it is a loop. It’s kinda like guns (note: it’s an hyperbole), the whole “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”, only applied to cigarettes, only that this would be something like: “Tobacco Companies don’t kill people. People who smoke kill themselves”.

In all honesty, i can’t blame a Cigarette Company that continues to produce his brand because people buy it. They saw an opportunity and they took it. But maybe that’s just my cynicism talking.

Then… Why don’t the tobacco companies just sell some weed?

Because they already have all this money invested in one product. Funny enough when the decision to make cannabis came down, it was the pharmaceutical companies trying to keep it legal. At this point they are just protecting their market. Although unless they invest in it, it is likely that Cannabis would be in status to microbrewery beers.

At this point I kinda don’t care, I just wanted to point out how most of you are functionally illiterate and unwilling to do anything about it. Meh, back to M:TG.

Damn she could buy a brand new husband…

Hahahaha. My grand father died of cancer, I wonder if I can help rek the industry. I loathe the tobacco industry as much as I do poaching.

The hypocrisy in the law is apparent, it is the finer points to the argument some may find highly objectionable.
One stance is that nothing should be banned since everything has its position in the spectrum of harm even certain necessities (the mention of water was brought up only to argue the point of ‘harmful things should be banned’ not as a perfect analogy to cigs). The individual (informed on current knowledge or not) should be the one to draw the line, instead of some interested bureaucrat.

Most of the ingredients that you refer to as chemicals in McDs food are there, as you know, for aesthetic or preservative reasons (and are not demonstrated to harm at levels present). People apparently want these aesthetic qualities in their food, and can easily get them with no adverse health effects from the additives (despite them being CHEMICALS!). I try not to eat that crap, but there is evidence that it is relatively harmless, and banning all foods with these types of ingredients would really change the landscape of food availability. Probably half or almost all of the stuff most people eat will be banned. And of course low availability is bad.
The damage done by natural ingredients like fat, salt, sugar is backed by evidence and dwarf anything done by these chemicals. So banning these buzzfeed additives doesnt really do to make people more healthy, because people want to eat fat, sugar, salt despite it being bad for them. Is controlling these types of aspects of the behavior of others is the righteous way to live? Especially when the majority of people seem so misinformed on the currrent state of knowledge (which is constantly in flux) on health and agriculture.

No, your body releases the chemicals that make it hard to quit. From snicker bars to tobacco. Why else do people get fat? Sure the simple calories in and calories out idea’s been around that just looks at it from a numbers standpoint. But from a deeper standpoint. Somewhere along the line most americans receive “candy” or some sugary item as a “treat”. The brain makes this connection that this is a feel good food. And when you go without it you start craving it because your brain knows that you haven’t had any in a while and releases chemicals to get you to eat it. Most people cave-in to those chemicals and reinforce that connection by eating more sugary treats. When that happens the body releases dopamine and the cycle continues.

This is worse for people who use food in times of depression as they depend on the dopamine released from the brain after eating ice cream or whatever. Everybody’s got an addiction. Maybe you don’t realize what yours is. Or yours is mild but you got one too. Maybe its a bag of cookies, maybe its caffeine.

So yes everyone knows addiction.

That said when this person started smoking he knew it was bad for him. Knew it was hard to quit but smoked anyway. I’ve got no sympathy for him or his wife. Anyone that decides to take up smoking knowing everything that can happen is on their own.

This is guy that was addicted to steroids, pain killers to other types of pain killers, moved onto heroin, opiates, opiate replacements and is now clean no tobacco no alcohol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn09nVezDks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjX8Is4k_eA

It can be done, but you have to make the choice. But its easier to just not start, and anyone that starts now with all this information about how bad tobacco is, is a moron and deserves whatever they get.

Just to add people have died from drinking too much water.

Depending on the size of the individual they may only need to drink 4 liters of water in a few hours to more.