lol awesome mike. I’m glad there are black people who play SF4 in the NW other than me. Wait, according to mandel…
No, I hear you eman about playing people you don’t know. I didn’t say he wasn’t skilled, but I was still really angry after losing to him. Especially after I perfected him my 1st round, I thought it was going to be a cake walk - which I probably shouldn’t have told myself. That’s cool, I’ll learn.
I think you’re right Eman, and you shouldn’t have to put up with other peoples whining if you don’t want to.
However, I think the examples you give are indeed super rare individuals, and represent a teeeeeny tiny fraction of humanity to the point where if someone were to ask me “who is the nicest person you have ever met in your life ever?” I would not hesitate to say “well sheeyit, its Brent Cleary of course”
I do think that these people are pillars of the manner realm, and can certainly be used as examples in behavior for us all. However, I think it would be much more realistic to say that many of us, including myself, may never be able to even come close to that type of behavior.
You should definitely try though
Wow heavy d, that was, heavy. Very true as well. I feel that it is important for all of us to at least look outside of ourselves and attempt to be genuine or just polite. Please don’t let our scene turn into the east coast.
One thing I’d like to emphasize it’s it’s okay to be salty or frustrated with a loss but you don’t have to be rude to other people because you’re mad at yourself. I was super salty after carlos beat me for my attempted 3rd place spot, so I walked around like “fuuuuuck” but when people talked to me I wasn’t being rude or disrespectful toward them because they had nothing to do with it.
There’s also a difference between not wanting to put YOURSELF around other people, and excluding other people. Emanuel’s not talking about holding sessions where people aren’t allowed, he just… ah nevermind. I don’t know how to explain it or get through to people. Let’s just continue on our awesome paths of self-destruction.
I agree with Mechanica - no reason to be grumpy/pissed off at other people because you lost a match.
If you ever see me with my hood up it usually means I am upset about a match, I won’t bite your head off or anything though but don’t be surprised if I am pretty bummed.
This. We are well on our way to it, and it disgusts me. But can’t change the unchangable right? Just focus on yourself, those that are caught up more on dramatics than their game will get a wake up call come EVO.
hi guys!
man that calros dood has mad SF gluttony aka hes hungry as shit… actually that guy eats a lot period
I just wish people would listen when people are trying to say something. Rather than taking what someone says and twisting it into your own world, just try to see it from their standpoint and just… listen. Listen to what this man has to say… Stop assuming you know what they’re saying and just try to objectively look at it and truly understand.
I don’t know. Cliques are not what he’s getting at, nor condoning. It’s understandable that not everyone will get along and that everyone has more preferred groups of people with whom they’d like to hang out… but that’s not what he’s talking about. At all.
Riki, I definitely resonate towards what you’re saying. For me, it’s in a very different perspective/situation, but at the same time very similar. For instance, I encouraged people to quit holding hands and come with their A game, while you are saying “we don’t NEED a bunch of jerks to be a great community.”
It’s incredibly important to nurture yourself in a positive environment, it truly is. My dad reminds me and my family all to often that I don’t have much time to live, he’s one of the most pessimistic people I’ve ever known, and I realized that in my life that the only thing that could “fight” it back was through positivity. I wanted to get that piece out of the way because I need to emphasize that I’m on the same page with you, that positivity is where we need to direct ourselves…as PEOPLE IN GENERAL not even just as a fighting game community.
Competitive psychology is a crazy thing to understand, it truly brings out the “survival of the fittest” attitude in people. I bring this up because it’s important to realize that competitive psychology will bring out 2 very extreme mentalities such as
- Cultivate ourselves/community so that we can be dominant.
- Down play the enemy in any way so that he becomes weaker
It’s natural to be upset after a loss, I think we all understand it (and for those that don’t and say they “laugh off their loses” we’ll never understand each other). It’s also** natural to be angry **towards the person who beat you…I’m not saying that it’s correct or moral, but it definitely is a natural human tendency to be slighted over the fact that you were shown that you were weaker than someone else…I guess that’s what you call pride then right?
There’s a large reason why I don’t tend to go to the dojo, why I don’t play with X, Y, or Z in the community, hell even why I choose my friends the way I do…it all begins with the mentality of the person in question. I think you’re feeling that as of recently now. The fact that you aren’t really feeling to good about how some people do things around here…so much to the extent that it even puts the allure of the game in jeopardy.
My sage advice is this Eman, negativity can be thrown your way (directly or indirectly) but it doesn’t affect you until you actually LET it. If someone takes what you did personally (win at a game), that’s on THEM, not on you. Try not to judge them too harshly if they over react, they’ll come around some day (hopefully). Try to learn how to generate their negativity into positivity even. If they’re complaining and acting harshly to you, realize that you created those feelings and learn how to control them…I believe that if you flat out asked “hey man, why are you acting like that. What’s going on exactly?” I’m sure you’ll be able to learn a lot about that person’s mentality…more importantly if they are a person who will be stubborn and quit, or change for the better.
We operate on different frequencies, and there are going to be people who are on your frequency, and there are others that won’t. It’s up to you to figure out if it’s worth it or not to work with someone who isn’t on your wave length. Anyways, brush it off homie, redefine how you go about things. Don’t let the community bring you down, the community never made you, so don’t ever let it break you.
EDIT: I was re-reading what you were saying about “look at players like Richard, Gadouken, Tanaka, Elias, Eric, etc. they don’t act like jerks when they lose.” As we all know, I’ve got a meeannnnnnn side to me where I can get pretty profane when I’ve lost to someone. You have to understand, that energy of hate and anger is all a product of exactly how passionate some people are about the game. I get angry and mean like that because I want so much to prove to myself that I can win, and most unfortunately it’s to the point of wanting to act destructive to the person that beat me/made me upset…
Like I said above, I’m not saying it’s right, and it’s something that I’m working on, but you should understand that it goes a bit farther past “maturity”…mix in a bit of pride and passion then I think you get the full picture. In a perfect world, we’d all take losses as a means to get better and in a perfect world, we’d all be able to talk losses out…however we’re human my friend and we all have varying ways of dealing with failure.
HAHAHAHA…man…I love Seattle sometimes…No personal offense Riki…ur a cool ass dude…but damn man…this is hilarious…and Seattle just happens to have a “period” every couple of months…gets me a few good laughs…robots laugh at the error of human ways
Eman…no one likes to lose…and when people think they can beat someone they get even more upset when they lose…that’s just the way the world works…someone wins and someone loses…and it’s never fun to lose…
In Highschool we had a motto…off the field a gentleman, on the field a warrior…so when I play people in SF4…anything goes…shit talking…salty-ness…taunting…because when it comes down to it all when shit matters only winning counts…and if my opposition is really salty after a loss…I get even more satisfaction…maybe even throw in a “u mad?” just because…why? because on the field…fuck you…off it…lets kick it and chill…
Now when it comes to casuals…yeah being a dick when you lose can be off putting but it’s casuals and anyone who takes those as anymore than a learning experience is laughable…(even I’ve been guilty of being “laughable” at times…I’m no saint)
but man…Eman…when people are nasty to you…in my experience there are 2 ways to go at it…laugh at them because how weak they are (preferably in their face)…or confront them and inquire as to why they are being suck a dick…the latter is not nearly as much fun…
To me though (I don’t know if anyone else is like this) but when people are dicks it’s even more satifying to beat them and in turn that gives me the motivation to continue to get better so that no matter what they will ALWAYS be beneath me for the rest of eternity…there are a few people that to me fit thayt category and better believe as long as I play fighting games they will always be beneath me…it’s just plain good motivation…I am thankful to the assholes of the world…they make me better…
and yeah I’m hella gluttonous in everything I do Vikek…
Win or lose. If you can’t handle too much salt, take it elsewhere?
Perhaps keep this salt stored in a cool/dry place and return it to the person(s) that last gave you salt some other time.
RBX PTS
Basically how I feel is everything that Elias is trying to say and everything that Mickey said lol Dope that you guys understand exactly where I’m coming from.
I’m not quitting the game or anything over this nor do I want to disclude people and create cliques. I just want people to atleast start thinking about being more positive individuals. The reason I made this thread was to jump start a trend of more positive attitudes. Some will get it, some wont and some will begin the journey to understanding the exchange of energy through social interactions and how it effects those around you. The more negative energy you give off the more you receive.
I also can’t emphasize enough how important this statement from Mr. Darling is :
Drama was not intended with this thread, shit even Mickey came with a super positive post no drama attached. This was just food for thought. Hope you guys are hungry.
I just ate a KFC Double Down, watch out
Ha you said it rikioh. All I gotta say is everyone better start saying hello. I mean think about. Have you said hello to me? Hear me knocking? Well, let me in Craig!
Too many homie handjob posts on here.
seems like riki just wanted people to identify/sympathize with his problem. Not actually fix them.
You want to change the GROUP aphmosphere into a positive one. The problem is not with the group, but with a select few individuals.
heres solution. call them out directly in private or public. talk to them. work this shit out. If u do it correctly, these people will learn from the experience and level up so next time its not such a big issue. and sometimes u need to do this over and over again. people make progress in small steps.
disreguarding negative posts cause they dont fit your vibe is stupid. the negative posts in this thread give the most important insight on why people get so salty. and that give you knowledge to be able to think of a good solution.
Posting some indirect bullshit on SRK doesnt fix anything. Be real and fix problems. Dont be a crybaby to get people to agree with you. that doesnt really sovlve anything.
^ You’re my hero.
Alright, so as a new player in the competitive fighting game scene, I try really hard not to act bitter. And it’s hard. I’m extremely competitive as a person, part of the reason why I play the game as much as I do and have a passion to learn and to win is because of my competitive nature and seeing Ghrrk level up and me sit around and get my ass beat for hours was no fun. I’ll be honest, I haven’t played him in a bit but I can remember rage-quitting plenty of times and I know mostly why now. The reason why I got so mad is because rather than have a will to learn the game, a will to learn mechanics and matchups, etc. all I cared about was winning. I would take a loss as a loss and I would do exactly as Mickey talked about, I would basically see that Shawn was better than me. Every time, haha. After watching TW S1 videos on YouTube and coming out and meeting quite a few really awesome people who seemed like they genuinely thought that I had the ability to learn to be better, I had the will to actually learn. Ever since then there’s always a few things that I keep in the back of my head that really keep my mind on check: 1) I’m a really new player, especially compared to a lot of the people that play 2) I don’t always get the chance to play against people because I have a PS3 3) It really is a game. If you’re not having fun then either learn to have fun (AKA get better if winning is priority) or stop playing if you can’t handle it.
I just realized this seems like much more of a biography than anything else, so if you do take the time to read this, I guess you know a little bit more about me. The whole point though is that if you can’t have fun and keep an open mind then what’s the point of it all? Winning is awesome but like the saying goes “you can’t win them all”.
It’s funny how your posts can be some what insightful and gross at the same time. You’re always the first to point fingures and talk about 'calling people out" but you’re the last to take action. Sorry I like to handle things in a respectful manner and try to keep the peace while dealing with issues within the scene. You seem to forget that alot of us are friends and I’d like to diplomatically discuss things instead of getting in people’s faces and starting drama. Frank, your posts need less negativity and less :lame: Try to be more helpful and less combative all of the time and maybe you’d enjoy playing the game more.
Well Frank is a really nice dude, he is just really aggressive online because he believes someone needs to be to stop dancing around whatever subject and get to business.