Casa De Bayo - Bayonetta 2

I get that the economy is bad, however if you’re buying video games, it only takes holding off on a few to afford a new console, if you save up from now until November 18th, just the small change here and there, hold off on going out and stuff you could probably scrounge up the money. If it’s important to you to play the best games you save that money.

You think it’s not hard for me? It’s fucking DIFFICULT to afford this stuff but in this case, yes the situation is exactly the same, if you want Bayonetta 2 you gotta get the system that it came out on. You want Uncharted? Halo? Same shit and each console has a few big reasons to play it and so in order to get the ones you want you need to buy that system and if history serves there is usually always at least one huge reason to own each individual game console. Is it hard? You bet! But nothing a little saving up and holding back can’t solve.

I feel bad for people that don’t have any other games they plan on getting on the WiiU or that just plain hate Nintendo products and are at the same time Bayonetta fans.

This is great news for people like me tho, I was already planning on getting a WiiU anyway

Not for you, maybe. Things are pretty damn expensive by the time they reach my shores though…

That said I hope Bayonetta 2 kicks ass (it should) and that it’ll be ported to PC or something (please!)

Yeah, I keep forgetting about places that aren’t North America. I apologize.

Bayonetta 2 is doomed to be even less successful than its predecessor.

Whereas Bayonetta barely succeeded the sequel is doomed to have even less sales than the first. The franchise is already dead and it’s all Nintendo’s fault.

You know I’m right. There’s just no way for them to break a million now. It’s impossible.

Ok I’ll bite on this. So you mean over 1.35 million units sold worldwide for Bayonetta is barely? Now I know you don’t like opinions of retards but HOW do you know Bayo 2 won’t sell over s million? Just because it’s on the WII-U doesn’t mean it is going to suck also people will buy the WII U like me cause I support nintendo as I do Sony tho I don’t really support Microsoft I still Like their console.

If crap like Red Steel can sell a million I don’t see why Bayonetta 2 can’t sell a million. Many of the hardcore Nintendo fans will still buy the Wii U and they’ll love to be able to rub their copies of Bayonetta 2 on the face of the Nintendo haters. Even if they haven’t played the first game.

I’m stopping there.

cosign to hell.

Watching that made me realize how bad I want a current gen sequel to Shinobi. One based on Hotsuma, not Hibane.

You’re hella confused right now, truth be told people know how to work a budget and would rather stick to the console with the biggest library. Guess you could always wait for the system to get cheaper down the line instead of holding out on games you wanna play atm. Regardless I’m betting most people here on SRK will wait for all three consoles to come out and get two of them. It gets even worse when companies port important sequels to handhelds, ultimately the consumer loses. Thank god I’m not a kingdom hearts fan because they gotta buy every console and handheld in existence.

I guess your statement maybe true in the later part of a generation but the first two years are crazy expensive to own all three consoles. 400 bucks minimum just for one and there are accessories to get for each console. Lets not forget the XBL subscription and maybe PSN mandatory subscription next gen since their current plan isn’t paying the bills.

Gotta agree with this, I think Nintendo peeps will be interested in this game. I know Madworld,Zack and Wiki & Muramasa didn’t sell well but Bayonetta is what put platinum on the map. Bayonetta has a chance of failing but it’s slim, if it does fail it hurts platinum as a company and eventually it will hurt the hardcore crowd.

Not impossible but it’s up in the air atm.

So how about Bayonetta 2 as a game people? Guess it’s too early to talk about that till gameplay comes out…?

Glad they are thinking about how to add something unique to the game with the WiiU gamepad. I also like how they mentioned teaming up with a “strong partner willing to grow the franchise” in reference to Nintendo. Guessing Bayonetta 2 will kill the first game in every conceivable way.

Jim about the WiiU, and at 5:20 mark, his opinion about the Bayogate…

PS3 and 360 should have been as powerful as the Wii.

Hear me out.

long as fuck

[details=Spoiler]PS3 and 360 should have been as powerful as the Wii, to save a lot of amazing developers and franchises/IPs that we lost this generation. If games weren’t as fuck-all expensive to develop as they are now, we’d still have stuff like the Timesplitters series, or more Valkyria Chronicles games, and we’d have more variety in gaming–developers would be more willing to take risks and create new IPs because they’d know that it wouldn’t be the literal death of their development houses if the IP didn’t sell well. A lot of today’s beloved franchises exist because developers made a gamble and took that risk.

The only developers capable of taking risks today are owned by companies that make more than enough money from big-name IPs they own like SquareEnix/Final Fantasy, Capcom/Resident Evil, etc. Even then, most of what SquareEnix has released since the mid-2000s have been remakes of games they released forever ago. Besides The World Ends With You, what’s the last truly new IP you’ve seen from them? Capcom seems to be doing a bit better. They’re releasing new IPs more frequently, but look at the quality of their newer IPs like Asura’s Wrath. It’s a glorified CG cutscene movie with an ending you had to pay for separately. But make no mistake, even these companies don’t have enough to take nearly the same number of risks as they could last generation. That’s why Capcom is raping consumers with DLC-everything and why SquareEnix keeps churning out re-releases… and also why Activision releases almost nothing but Call of Duty games: they’re safe investments with very low probability of failure/low sales.

Sega is dying because of the suffocating nature of today’s gaming industry. They took risks, and most of them failed horribly. They developed and published a LOT of great titles, and all but one or two of them did not sell. And now it’s come to this. They don’t have enough to take any more risks. They’re not to blame–at least, not fully. The blame falls on a variety of parties, including we the consumers. Consumers should have supported them more and bought the good games they developed and/or published. They’ve released a lot of them this generation: Yakuza 3, Yakuza 4, Sonic Colors, Sonic Generations, Valkyria Chronicles, Valkyria Chronicles 2, Bayonetta, Vanquish, and MadWorld are a few that come to mind.

You slapshits hate so hard on Nintendo, but they’re the smartest of the three console powerhouses. There are so many AMAZING games on the Wii because it’s low development costs allowed developers to take risks and try out new ideas. They weren’t bankrupted if their game didn’t sell well for what ever reason. Nintendo was first to capitalize on the fact that games were becoming more and more mainstream–they catered to the casual consumers with the games like Wii Sports and the nature of the Wii’s controls. They made the system only slightly more powerful than the previous generation’s because they wanted their system to be more affordable, so that it would be in more homes. They made the controls they way they did and packaged every Wii with Wii Sports because they wanted Wii systems to sit in homes instead of store shelves.

A situation: You are a typical starving artist. You make just enough to pay the bills and eat a few cups of ramen noodles a day. You create a very distinct and specific kind of art and you love doing it. More than anything. You show your art to a few friends and acquaintances, and they love it so much they they offer to pay you for creating some for them. An acquaintance shows one of your works to a friend that is a marketing agent. The marketing agent is so impressed that he/she gets your contact info from your acquaintance and contacts you for a meeting. He/she tells you that if you change your style, your art will appeal to a broader group of people and you’ll make a killing with his/her help. You’d be able to move out of the shit-hole cesspool you call a living space/house/neighborhood. You’d be able to eat something other than the same salty noodles you’ve been living on since college. You will be able to have so much more. But you love your distinct style more than anything and you want the world to see this style instead of a something different. Would you decline the agent’s offer because you’re too proud and stubborn to change your style, or would you accept the agent’s offer and be rewarded with new opportunities?

Same nonsense with people who cry about musicians and movie directors “selling out.”

roflmaozedongdongcopter @ you because they’re GETTIN’ MONEY, NIGGAS.

You’re all butthurt because Nintendo “sold out”, made a “shit system” that has “shit games,” a “shit controller,” and caters only to “soccer moms,” “children” and “casualfags.” You think Nintendo gives a shit about what you, the minority thinks? They don’t, because they’re getting PAID. They’ve got a giant ass vault full of money that they spring board dive into and swim in all day. They see everything in the color green because they’re eyes are permanently attuned to the color of 'dat paypuh™. When they read their message boards, they don’t see consumers complaining. Hell, they don’t even see their happy consumers’ posts–they don’t see anything because all the letters and numbers are replaced by $$$$ symbols.

Sega doesn’t have that. Not any more. So they did the best thing they could do and release some IPs in hopes that other companies would pick them up. Again, Nintendo played smart. They knew how popular Bayonetta was, so they made sure to throw enough money at Platinum Games and/or Sega to get the rights to publish a sequel. we don’t know what happens behind closed doors. For all we know, Sony and Microsoft probably threw a ton of money at them too, but it went down like those bidding wars you see in cartoons and movies where someone bids enough money to buy the planet Jupiter. Then as everyone is picking their jaws up from the floor, they hear someone mention an amount that can buy the Sun. That was Nintendo, for all you know.

If you’re mad, blame yourselves and your fellow consumers if you did not support Sega by buying their good games, blame the gaming industry for creating this hostile environment for developers and publishers, and blame Sega’s marketing branch for not knowing how to sell a banana to a chimpanzee. The latter might also be because of lack of money, in which case, blame yourselves again.

I’m not a fanboy of any company, but I respect smart business tactics. All 3 companies are playing to win, but as of right now, Nintendo is the one that has the winning strats.

Best believe I’ll be playing the shit out of Bayonetta 2 when it gets released and enjoying every minute of it. And like Nintendo, butthurt anti-Nintendo consumers won’t even be on my mind when I’m hitting those Non-Stop Infinite Climax Graciouses and Gloriouses with Kilgore Glitches (part 2).[/details]

Happy gaming, all! :smiley:

GDLK video, especially because of Jesters of the Moon and Theme of Tantalus :tup:

Not at all

I think brand recognition goes a long way. Look at games like Okami and God Hand. They both tanked in retail at release, but based on word of mouth God Hand was a top seller on PSN the month it was put up as a classic and Okami is getting an HD re-release. Not alot of people may have bought Bayonetta at launch, but based on good word of mouth I bet alot more are interested in the sequel

and now it’s being exposed to a potential audience that it wasn’t with the previous games. Nintendo fans who are curious as they’ve heard good things about the game but never had a console to play it on. Nintendo fans who haven’t really been exposed to a type of game like this as it’s something that didn’t exist in Nintendo’s portfolio prior.

I think it’ll do fine.

I think people either overstate or understate how much Bayonetta 1 sold.

To my knowledge it did 350k in the US and about 300k in japan. It SHIPPED 1.35 million units not sold.

I think it did about 100k across both platforms in the US the month of release, which is a huge bomb

So I can’t imagine it doing worse than the original. Not only because of there being brand recognition and alot more interest this time around than there was for the original(which was a new IP by a then unknown development studio) but also because the original set such a low bar. lol

Not really sure what the basis is of which PsychoJosh makes his claim, but from the looks of it it’s probably just bitterness. =P

I think it’s really cool how the reveal trailer references the one of the original game

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Differences being a crescent moon instead of a full one,(The 2 in the logo also looks like a crescent moon, possibly implying that this is an important symbol for the game. Moon was always full in Bayonetta as it triggered Witch Walk when it was visible) a blue motif instead of red, black crow feathers instead of angel feathers and the enemy angel character deflecting Bayonetta’s attacks (and also displaying ability to use a “Witch Time” equivalent)

Could be implying that the enemies are stronger, or perhaps a new playable character as it has a similar ability to Bayo’s.(Rumors floated around about Co-Op when this was supposedly in development under Sega)

The sage in the trailer also appears to be female, which if true is a big deal as in the first game all Sages were male and all Witches female.

Also interesting is that Bayonetta’s face isn’t shown, which some people have taken to mean that the character in the trailer possibly isn’t Bayonetta at all.

Dying to know more! Most hyped game for me right now

I almost wish it didn’t get announced yet so I could concentrate on my studies. = X

Gilbert predicted this many years ago and wrote this sad song about it.

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If you look closely at the gun in the trailer it looks to be Jeannes and not Bayonettas. Another hint that we may be playing as someone else? Hmmm.

Well of course you can’t get EACH one at launch, and you’re probably not gonna want XBL and PSN (if it’s paid) at the same time. I took that for granted.

I agree that it could be a new character, but they aren’t Jeanne’s guns. Her guns were purple and had a different ornament

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Could be lighting. Bayonetta’s guns look like they are black in her launch trailer. I’ll give you the ornaments, but it’s not the first time minor details have changed from one game to the next either. The gun I see clearly at the end of the B2 trailer looks much more like a part of the All4One set then the Scarborough Fair set. Kamiya has also mused about making a sequel staring Jeanne instead of Bayonetta.

It’s Rodin’s guns :smokin: