zomg that guy was a dork!!!
You Know What I hate most
on the back cover of the game says
A Tribute To Classic Arcade Fighting Games
FUCK YOU!!!
Nothing wrong with Ultimate Guard for Warzard characters. What’s there to nerf about it? The Ultimate Counters aren’t that useful.
ArcadeFire, do you play a lot of 3rd Strike?
Imagine if you will, a parry that you could activate before your opponent even threw out an attack, simply because you anticipated it…and it WORKED. This is just one of the most basic things you can do with Ultimate Guard. Ultimate Guard is a parry mode that you can TURN ON when something comes at you that automatically parries anything that comes your way…high, low, whatever. Is Chun-Li gonna do an SA2 on you? No matter! Ultimate Guard parries the ENTIRE THING. And at the end of the super, you can rotate the Stick from back to down and press punch or kick for a free attack.
Such is the nature of Ultimate Guard - a parry that you don’t have to time (or even execute, since after you turn it on, it parries everything for you) that gives you a free alpha counter afterwards (no meter necesary!). All you have to do is wait until the end of a blocked string where your opponent can’t tack on another attack, and just do the Ultimate Counter, and they’re off your hands already.
You might be thinking two different things about Ultimate Counters now:
- Even if it IS easy to land an Ultimate Counter, it knocks the enemy away! Red Earth characters are slow, and unable to use the knockdown to mount an offense.
- Irrelevant. Red Earth characters are all turtles: Hydron zones people out with his projectiles, Kenji zones people out with his projectiles AND Fierce punch, and Leo and Hauzer zone people out with their crazy long range and high priority pokes all day. Also, they’re damn good at it, too; Kenji has been top tier since the game’s release, and Leo and Hauzer are now 2nd tier, debatable top. Hydron is mid-tier, but I think he could ALSO be second tier if anyone cared to explore what he’s capable of. So yeah. No need to mount an offense; Ultimate Counter knocks the opponent away, which is EXACTLY what you want if you’re a Red Earth character.
- Even if you don’t have to time Ultimate Guards properly, couldn’t you just bait an Ultimate Guard?
- I guess you COULD, but here’s why it won’t happen against a good player: You can cancel your blockstun into an Ultimate Guard. If you see your opponent doing a simple block string, you can just activate Ultimate Guard in the middle of it, often leaving your opponent with no way to get out of the situation. This is absolutely the MOST ridiculous thing about Ultimate Guard - this is like a free, skill-less RED PARRY! The 3S characters in CFE don’t HAVE Red Parries, but Red Earth has a super super easy version? Ultimate Guards are fucking psycho.
Almost no character can deal with Ultimate Guard. The only non Red-Earth characters that can reasonably deal with Ultimate Guards:
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Zangief, for having an SPD. Of course, good fucking luck ever getting in on a good Leo player with Gief. Getting close to Kenji or Hydron with Gief is no walk in the park, either.
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Alex, for having Hyper Bomb and parries. It’s too bad Alex sucks ass…
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Guy, for having block strings that are cancellable into Bushin Izuna Drop. Doing short strings into Izuna Drop renders Ultimate Counters inept, almost completely ruining the effectiveness of Ultimate Guard against guy.
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Jedah, for having a near unending corner string; it’s pretty much impossible to land an Ultimate Counter on Jedah.
100% agreed…
Wow. Great review.
I played this game some much with friends.
I couldn’t have reviewed it or stated any points better.
I think the people who say it’s bad are comparing it to CvS2/3rdStrike/MvC2… and I suppose that is justifiable. I don’t think any one of us would say it’s a better game then those 3.
IMO, it’s not as good as cvs2/3rds/mvc2, but we’ve had worse from Capcom. Remember CvS 1 or SFA 1? Those games were horrible compared to CFE.
Isn’t Shunpuu Kyaku, s.jab a 1-frame link? If so, that isn’t something that you would see a lot in a match.
I’ve heard a lot of people say that but I don’t have much trouble performing that combo (even though I have a very sloppy execution). Maybe it’s because I buffer everything (what some people here at SRK refer to as “performing combos in scrubby style”, bleh…).
You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Play any decent Red Earth player and you’ll how annoying ultimate guard & ultimate counter are.
Indeed.
There is one reason we can all agree it sucks. It’s yet another compilation/crossover from Capcom that is NOT Street Fighter 4.
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i agree that his zoning game is key but i don’t think he can effectively turtle; he’s actually pretty bad at turtling. if you ever watch the way Tokido played him ( when Japan cared ) he’d use slow ass projectiles as rushdown tools to put the opponent in blockstun or make them block the wrong way.
While you might be right that Kenji has a lot of good offensive tools, he’s a million times better at turtling. His projectile is very similar to Sonic Boom, his HP spamming techniques are nearly impossible to deal with for most of the cast (they’re long range, and surprisingly fast, ESPECIALLY J. Hp). All of his supers, even his Lv.3 Super, can be used for anti-air (the Lv1 and Lv2 supers being stupid easy to use for that respect), he can build meter crazy-fast, his Hurricane Kick goes over almost every projectile in the game, and he has a teleport on top of all that.
In fact, his more even/bad matchups are ones where he has to play offensively, either due to his turtling tactics being ineffective on that particular character (Demitri), or because those opponents can get in on him really, really easy (Guy, Karin, Urien, Jedah, Bison). But for more than half of the cast, his most effective play style is to just spam projectiles and Hp all day and let his opponent figure out what to do.
who ever neg repped me is clearly awesome, and clearly is a being that can control another person opinions, cuz I now feel the upmost un conditional love for marvel, and no matter how played out it gets i will still play it, till the day its removed from all arcades everywhere
Bottom line the clash thing has been done to death. And year after year we wait for a brand new SF. But I know all we’re gonna get is Megaman,RE & some other non-fighters. And damn Jedah is a monster in CFJ! o_0