Can you be a contender without RC?

Now this, this is amazing. How in the blue hell did that happen? I think BAS just has bad luck against players who pick unorthodox Grooves/Characters.

Yeah I realized the Groove matchup wasn’t real good, but I just kinda accepted that as a consequence of picking a Groove that doesn’t have very many options. Not to say anyone is more or less godly than they actually are.

K-groove doesn’t have a lot of options? I always thought K-groove was pretty versatile…rushdown, turtle, poke…with it’s movement options and just defend i think it can do a lot…(except roll/RC)

K groove’s main option is to block and get guard crushed by a Sakura CC.

k is still better off than p. ;/

Yeah, Capcom neglected to show that at the Groove select screen. There’s all sorts of hidden shit in CvS2.

What was Tokido doing with Blanka against Ino’s K-groove then? If he wasn’t RCing then I would think he’d get rushed to death by Sagat…

As I said, Tokido’s Bison almost took out Sagat all by himself. By the time his Blanka came in, there wasn’t much left for him to do.

So there you have it - more or less what was said. You dont need RCing but it helps a lot.

:lol: Too good.

hey gunter, did you see SBO vids besides the finals? to give the RC details of tokido vs ino, you must’ve seen the actual match vids, right?

if so, please tell me where you got them.

Thanks alot for the input everyone, now that I know that I can focus on improving my others skills.

You can still roll cancel on Xbox, dunno about GC.

Can you clarify that? People are having xbox tournies with one of the reasons being that it doesn’t have RC.

  • For clarification RC includes the addition of the invulnerable frames, the technical definition of RC (i.e. just to cancel a roll) has been depreciated and should not be used. Just so we don’t take this off topic too far :slight_smile:

As for the subject, i don’t think it’s crazy to win without RC, Just that it’s a disadvantage to play an RC team without RC’ing, like playing P without parrying, etc…

Why shouldn’t it be used? That’s what you’re doing… you are cancelling a roll. Just because it’s not invincible doesn’t mean that it’s not being done, OR that it doesn’t help some characters immensely…

I was not aware of a non-invincible RC helping a character, but i would be intrested in hearing about it.

Anyone who has played 3S will tell you that kara canceling throws is extremely helpful. Roll cancels are by definition kara cancels, but you cancel a universal move (the roll) rather than a forward-moving normal (which some characters don’t have).

Any character with a command grab is helped by roll cancels, whether they are invincible or not, because the roll moves them forward, increasing the range on their command grab, which they CANCEL the ROLL with.

you can’t RC on the xbox, and RCing is very essential to playing the game at top levels.