C Viper - Combo Thread

[ThatJollyOlBastid]

What exactly does she offer for corner carry alone?
But i assume it’s mostly with assists, and i work with Jam Session/Vajra/Plasma Beam/Rapidslash.

[ceemurda]

What exactly does she offer for corner carry alone?
But i assume it’s mostly with assists, and i work with Jam Session/Vajra/Plasma Beam/Rapidslash.

the staircase loop carry from corner to corner

[MastaSW]

If it dont werk force it too

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Here it is you gotta dash back as for some reason vipers airdash H up close still has the air carry momentum so she doesnt fall down quick enough so making enough space between her hitting helps her fall in time. (check the inputs for how tight the whole sequence has to be)
The combo i did was ass but 500k is a start for you mag players put ur execution to work lol. I think it should be possible to do 1 rep of seismo jc vanilla style or go into burn step loops(you can stick 1 medium knuckle before the H knuckle) has to be 3 reps tho the hitstun is mythical at this point, then whatever assist you have left over if applicable.
Viper Mags may be back (ps dont forget about throw>hypergrav>raw tag viper>burnkick loops for a mill)

You’ve done it sir,you’ve done it.I may still go with my Rapid Slash assist for combo extensions but just to know that this is still available is great for my team.Many thanks and kudos,can’t wait to see somebody optimize that to see how far the damage can go

[Dont_Jump]

i work with Jam Session/Vajra/Plasma Beam/Rapidslash.

This should be everybody’s Signature on this website. shrug

[ceemurda]

This should be everybody’s Signature on this website. shrug

just so happens that those assist are multi- purpose assist that are very good…especially with viper which needs a good vertical assist to setup her footies, unblockables and strong counter game

[MastaSW]

Thunder knuckle / staircase loop B&B combo (no assist, uses one meter, meter positive)
EDIT: I think this is a corner combo only, linking that H thunder knuckle after the M thunder knuckles requires corner.
This combo works on normal to large sized characters, Zero and Wolverine included – I doubt it works on the likes of Viewtiful Joe and Rocket Raccoon though – use something simple for them, maybe box loop or something.
Opener, st.Hxx236MS, st.Hxx236MS, 236HS, super jump, j.H, jump cancel, j.H, 214LS~j.H, j.S, 214LS~j.H, j.S, 214LS~j.H, j.S, (land), st.M, st.H, st.S, j.M, j.M, j.H, jump cancel, j.M, j.H, j.S, (land), 623Lxx214AA

1. Opener
   This can be pretty much anything - my top openers are; cr.M (a good low, decent range) air dash j.L (hella godly air to ground poke), air dash j.H (slower than j.L and not as much air to ground range but you can option select an air throw if you want and easily confirm to anything upon landing) and lastly, my favorite - standing light burnkick “S” cancelled to j.L, j.H (my #1 go to option for a fast overhead, crazy good in my opinion - you can also use j.L, j.L, st.L for an “overhead, overhead, low” option in case the opponent is good at blocking the initial overhead this triple hitting option can usually open them up).
2. {st.Hxx236M*S}x2
   After your opener you can do st.H to “S” cancelled medium thunder knuckle twice, must “S” cancel the thunder knuckle on hit. If you have trouble linking the H thunder knuckle after doing two M thunder knuckles, then just do one rep of the M thunder knuckle I guess.
3. 236H*S
   An “S” cancelled H thunder knuckle, must cancel on hit and before Viper leaves the ground. This move is wicked fast, but hit stun deterioration after the two medium thunder knuckles is wearing thin so you still need pretty tight timing right here.
4. Super jump
   This is very important; this must be a super jump – a normal jump fucks up the hit stun deterioration making the combo drop.
5. j.H, jump cancel j.H
   You must perform the jump cancel and second j.H as fast as possible - do it hella fast. Doing it as fast as possible keeps the opponent juggled in the right position to start the staircase loop.
6. {214L*S~.j.H, j.S}x3
   This is the actual staircase loop - you can do two or three reps of it depending on your height and speed of execution. You must “S” cancel your light burn kick before it hits, then hit your j.H very quickly after your “S” cancel almost like you’re plinking. So, after the “S” cancelled H thunder knuckle, you will hit with three j.H’s in a row – pretty cool! During the loop, after the j.H it is a small delay until you perform your j.S. What I do is perform the light burn kick and then when “S” canceling it, I hit S~H very fast so the j.H comes out right after cancelling the burn kick. Try not to rush and cancel the actual burn kick too fast or it won’t cancel, canceling burn kicks isn’t quite like plinking, it’s a little slower than that – just hit the H hella fast after the “S” cancel. Then after then j.H hits, you have plenty of time to watch and delay to hit with your j.S. Does that make sense?
7. st.M, st.H, st.S, j.M, j.M, j.H, jump cancel, j.M, j.H, j.S, (land), 623Lxx214A
   The all-familiar dial-a-combo ender we have all come to know and love. After three full staircase loop reps, you’ll be just about to land. Upon landing, you’ll immediately be in position to hit your opponent with the initial st.M and it’s easy as simple pie from there. Still have enough hitstun left to bang their nuggets into the ground with a seismo before cancelling into super.

sup.

NICE,love the step by step break down of each part of it too…kina suxx it’s mainly just a corner combo tho but great stuff anyways.Practice time

[LouieBH]

This should be everybody’s Signature on this website. shrug

viper doesnt really have much to work with if you actually want a team that can compete legitimately

[ceemurda]

viper doesnt really have much to work with if you actually want a team that can compete legitimately

Im confused about that statement

Kappa

[Dont_Jump]

Viper on her own is even scary. lol. What are you talking about? That’s why shes easily top 4.

She probably has the best high low game, gets inside really easily, answers to projectiles, invincible special moves that beat out everything ever, overhead assist to create unblockables, unblockable with focus attack off incoming character, great zoning with JC seismos, amazing DHC synergy for any character incomming, great meter build, full combo off of ANY throw without assists.

Yeah, she needs assist to be really good. shrug

[don_tknow]

soz i took so long was busy

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If it dont werk force it too

[media=youtube]H57Ca6x6Hwo[/media]

Here it is you gotta dash back as for some reason vipers airdash H up close still has the air carry momentum so she doesnt fall down quick enough so making enough space between her hitting helps her fall in time. (check the inputs for how tight the whole sequence has to be)

The combo i did was ass but 500k is a start for you mag players put ur execution to work lol. I think it should be possible to do 1 rep of seismo jc vanilla style or go into burn step loops(you can stick 1 medium knuckle before the H knuckle) has to be 3 reps tho the hitstun is mythical at this point, then whatever assist you have left over if applicable.

Viper mags may be back (ps dont forget about throw>hypergrav>raw tag viper>burnkick loops for a mill)

Awesome stuff and big thanks for figuring that out, but that early in combo you can easily relaunch assistless by just doing L seismo, tk’d sj.L bk. This even works with way more hits before the first launcher as long as you don’t add a boxdash loop anywhere in there (air normals and grounded hits vs airborne opponents are the stuff that adds the most hsd). it’s also probably way easier than the mag relaunch. The assisted relaunch is basically a tool to get a relaunch late in a combo or more specifically after boxdash loops, and for that purpose disruptor just doesn’t make the cut anymore…

[DrewGrimey]

soz i took so long was busy

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If it dont werk force it too

[media=youtube]H57Ca6x6Hwo[/media]

Here it is you gotta dash back as for some reason vipers airdash H up close still has the air carry momentum so she doesnt fall down quick enough so making enough space between her hitting helps her fall in time. (check the inputs for how tight the whole sequence has to be)

The combo i did was ass but 500k is a start for you mag players put ur execution to work lol. I think it should be possible to do 1 rep of seismo jc vanilla style or go into burn step loops(you can stick 1 medium knuckle before the H knuckle) has to be 3 reps tho the hitstun is mythical at this point, then whatever assist you have left over if applicable.

Viper mags may be back (ps dont forget about throw>hypergrav>raw tag viper>burnkick loops for a mill)

that wont work for a non-S starter, what mags assist does give viper is another rep after box loop. For example do the box loop, land m,h+call mags, s(first hit only), h burnkick, m,h,S, finish combo does almost the same damage as getting a relaunch, only difference is that the combo before the relaunch is longer

[LouieBH]

Awesome stuff and big thanks for figuring that out, but that early in combo you can easily relaunch assistless by just doing L seismo, tk’d sj.L bk. This even works with way more hits before the first launcher as long as you don’t add a boxdash loop anywhere in there (air normals and grounded hits vs airborne opponents are the stuff that adds the most hsd). it’s also probably way easier than the mag relaunch. The assisted relaunch is basically a tool to get a relaunch late in a combo or more specifically after boxdash loops, and for that purpose disruptor just doesn’t make the cut anymore…

that wont work for a non-S starter, what mags assist does give viper is another rep after box loop. For example do the box loop, land m,h+call mags, s(first hit only), h burnkick, m,h,S, finish combo does almost the same damage as getting a relaunch, only difference is that the combo before the relaunch is longer

@Dont know I realised that the combo is pretty ass but with a bit of creativity it can be made respectable, end of the day they nerfed disruptor to not be able to do assisted relaunches any more this wouldnt be a problem if it was multi hitting assist but since it does so little hitstun in the air its difficult to work with for viper though 90k for 1 hit is a extra thunder knuckle so even if you use it early its not that much worse than a relaunch sequence dmg wise. Its a better alternative to using ex burnkick i guess lol. If viper players put their heads together im sure we can make something very useful from this as a foundation, for now though this a extra hit confirm to work with since most viper mags are using 1 assist for combos anyways.

@drew the last thing in the video i did was off a different hitconfirm other than an S its possible not too practical at least without practice i think the main variable is how fast you do the combo the longer you take the less hitstun off disruptor you have to work with, If you do get the relaunch burnkick loops should be the go to combo to put it on a level playing field as viper cant do 2 extra relaunches with assists damage should work out similar or a lil more than the thunderknuckle starters and should give viper more flexibility especially with her pretty weak jump confirms. I dont think it will be too good overall but who knows what the future holds heh maybe she can get a solid mill off this!

[Dec29]

@LouieBH I use Viper/Dante/Mags and you can get also a relaunch off Disruptor with seimos sjc burnkick but that requires are very low hit count during the combo. Like Drew I think you’re better off using during a box loop. You can get a practical 1mil too with H xx qcf.M~S, cr.M st.H xx qcf.M~S, cr.M H+disruptor xx qcf.M~S, qcf.H~S sjc sj.H [xx BK feint sj.H sj.S]x3 land, MHS sjc MMH dj MMHS land, Jam Session, seismo sjc seismo sjc burnkick land S sjc sj.S adf whiff normal, land, super

[Mr.Doctor]

Sorry for the scrubby question but how do you connect the sj BK extension with plasma beam? it doest matter what timing variations I do on my tiger knee it always ends up as either normal jump BK or worse ground BK… anyways any help is appreciated

[juh]

Sorry for the scrubby question but how do you connect the sj BK extension with plasma beam? it doest matter what timing variations I do on my tiger knee it always ends up as either normal jump BK or worse ground BK… anyways any help is appreciated

first off you should be using Light BK in case you didn’t know. and if you are using that, you’re probably rushing things. press L a tiny bit after you hit 8 on your stick

[Mr.Doctor]

thanks juh, i’ll try delaying a bit more.

[ceemurda]

first off you should be using Light BK in case you didn’t know. and if you are using that, you’re probably rushing things. press L a tiny bit after you hit 8 on your stick

??? I caall the assist dash once then do seismo L xx BK h but I tiger knee the burn kick h

[Akka]

Hey guys, I have been playing Magneto/Viper/Doom since vanilla and one area that has always been a weakness in my game is taking advantage of the TAC engine (TACing into Viper). Obviously I got options once Magneto is dead and it’s now Viper/Doom left. But I feel like there has to be some sick options to TACing Viper in. So, I was wondering, does anyone have any advice/recommendations as to what would be good and/or optimal TAC combos for Viper? I know she has a TAC infinite that I can do on Down TAC, but I feel like there has to be something other than that to her TAC game. Anyone have any tips? Thanks guys!

[ceemurda]

Hey guys, I have been playing Magneto/Viper/Doom since vanilla and one area that has always been a weakness in my game is taking advantage of the TAC engine (TACing into Viper). Obviously I got options once Magneto is dead and it’s now Viper/Doom left. But I feel like there has to be some sick options to TACing Viper in. So, I was wondering, does anyone have any advice/recommendations as to what would be good and/or optimal TAC combos for Viper? I know she has a TAC infinite that I can do on Down TAC, but I feel like there has to be something other than that to her TAC game. Anyone have any tips? Thanks guys!

um why dont you put viper on point then mags and doom, thats the best order to take advantage of the TAC engine… plus you would get more damage out of viper just my thoughts

[Akka]

um why dont you put viper on point then mags and doom, thats the best order to take advantage of the TAC engine… plus you would get more damage out of viper just my thoughts

Yeah I get that suggestion all the time, but I don’t like having Viper on point. My style really goes towards putting people in a Magneto blender. I also really like the DHC’s and unblockables that she gives Magneto too.