having trouble with Viper’s BK fients on stick…in tips because I just feel like I’m stuck with her with no progression. I run her on point with doom and vergil as my anchor
Viper is nothing but lots of practice, make sure to sj when doing bk feints. Getting better with her takes time, you have to get over the learning curve.
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I feel you. I chose viper for that reason. If I can get her down then I can do the same for others…Go big or go home basically. I just trying to improve my neutral game(her normals are a drag) and cross-ups…
Yeah, her neutral is learning to use her tools and certain situations, and of course movement.
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is there a reason why people do sj box dash H S after a ex seismo isnt ex seismo to h burn kick more dmg? i guess it builds more meter and you can do some burnkick feints…
I guess it’s because it’s hard to confirm if ex seismo hits, and h bk is unsafe on block if not covered by an assist. But boxdash h s isn’t the best way either and will get you airthrown pretty often. Imo it’s safest to either fadc out if you’re on point with that (will get you the most frameadvantage on block too) or just jump and instantly airdash down on reaction.
H burnkick is -1 on block hella safe. You might be right though if they can chicken block it.
I know that it’s -1. I throw punish blocked h bk’s consistently, and i got thrown quite often by people who know the marchup (aka everyone i play on a regular base). It’s not like wesker’s launcher where you’re out of range for everything fast enough. I also got airthrown out of it during startup, it’s not like ex seismo h bk is a tight blockstring.
hha i just thought it was a better “hit confirm” that did more dmg but i was wrong it does 1k less. wasnt not trying to argue
I think if you’re able to hitconfirm it, it’s still a viable option, since followups are pretty easy. Did you try to h tk feint into stairkick loop after it? Should do more damage than boxdash h s.
edit: okay so i just tested it, you can do a full stairkick loop (3 reps) into relaunch and it does way more damage than boxdash h s, even if you have an assist to relaunch.
good stuff i never thought of adding the h tk staircase. yea i like this hit confirm better cause i mess up the box dash hs if i hit them when there jumping and you have to time your sj dash depending on how high they are sometime i dash under them and miss. with this i dont have to time jack shii and it hit from max range of ex seismo i think.
So marlin uses plasma for an extension but I know in vanilla he used disruptor. Is it still possible because I can’t get it.
jump in S, M, H, mtk, M, H, S, mtk, htk, j.H, L BC feint H, S, land, M, H, S, L seismo, sjc H BC, H, S, j.MMH, djMMHS, vergil assist, L seismo, sjc H BC, S, j.S, dash df, seismo super is about 958k dmg where the same combo with stair kick x3 variation is around 915k.
I couldnt find anything more dmging from a jump in S. This could be the most dmg possible for Viper (slightly more with some other assist than Vergil’s)
It doesn’t work anymore since disruptors soft knockdown properties were removed in ultimate.
Yeah i guess this is the most dmg you can get for 1 meter. I tried to crack 1 million pre dhc too and couldn’t manage to get it, around 950 was the most i got too. But who cares if you got vergil for dhc’s? ^^
Well the most dmg i can get is 988k with the same combo, but instead starting it with H, mtk x3
but yeah with Vergil DHC it makes no difference. The goal there should be how easy you can get good dmg before dhc. Thing is this combo is much easier than stair kick x3 plus it goes corner to corner without the need to alter any timings of the combo at any point!
for the record with vergil dhc i got 2.100k but no one cares 
yeah, not even thor cares ^^
Woah has anyone tried viper,dorm,magnus?
For rushdown and pressure disruptor and dark hole work kinda well.
As for combos and damage you can use hyper grav which leads to some real swaggy looking feint loops and liberation at the end for seismo liberation burnkick into hyper.
Which assists would you recommend?
Also note that viper seismo helps get extra damage for magnus and dormamu.
Burn kick gets unblockables.
After :qcb::atk::atk: with viper you can go to stalking flare with doom and get plenty of charges or follow with 1d1c into otg super.
The rest of the dhcs are great too.
This team is just top tier high damage characters given the option of rushdown or extra damage. This team is stupid awesome.
Also may I please have a way to confirm or combo with disruptor I checked the thread and all I saw were feint loops which I can do in training mode but not in a real match yet (at least not consistently.) I know you can’t quite do what marlin does with plasma but there has to be something like mh tk disruptor etc into seismo. I was in the lab but couldn’t find a way to combo into seismo.
Any Viper Skrull players around? I’m wondering what I can do after Seismo > Tenderizer… would staircase be best to go after it
im a super skrull expert but am just picking up viper. i find it hard to fit them both on one team.i was thinking viper/assist character/skrull. even though i main skrull on point. but i cant do staircase loop yet i havent bothered learning it yet unfortunatly