C Viper - Combo Thread

ok i need some help with a relaunch with ironmans repulsor blast assist. i can get it 50 % its kinda random but i was wondering if theres a trick to getting it to work. yes i know unibeam is a better assist for viper. but its so good for spiderman combos so im trying to make it work. thanks.

Can you describe your corner bnb? So I can compare and even try to improve mine. But yes, it does 920k with Burst Time building 0.7 meters. I’m out of ideas to maximize damage without using the EX moves.

Sorry for any “Engrish”.
Greetings from Brazil.

Hrm… If I remember correctly (I stopped Viper/Doom a very long time ago), sans-j. H starter it would be

s.:m::h: xx Th.K (M,S), s.:m::h: xx Seismo L xx BK (H), s.:m::h::s:, sj.:m::m::h:, dj.:m::m::h::s:, Doom… Seismo L xx BK (H), Launch, sj.:h:, dj.:h::s:, Strider + Seismo L xx Th. K (H), Seismo L xx Burst Time

Does around 917k or so if I remember correctly. Would be around 914k or so if you start with cr. M.

Is the best way to squeeze extra meter gain out of a combo the staircase loop?

The combo I have right now with Spencer & Strider does about 1.1 million after the DHC to Spencer, then OTG and use the double diagonal grapple trick to get an extra up grapple at the end. if I do two box loops it builds about 1.8 bars… if I start with an S, it comes even closer to 2 but still not enough. would the staircase get me where I need to be?

In most cases yes, staircases do build more bar (and do more damage) than your regular non-bk-feint-bnb.

Hmmmm… I noticed I’ve got different damage values when trying this. Sometimes 896k, or 908k, or 914k.
So I tried mine again, then I’ve got 920k, 928k and 936k.

I think it’s about how many hits the Plasma Beam does.

And after the first knockdown by sj.S I did 555k dmg using my combo and 512k using yours. Damage scalling hurts a bit after the relaunch.
I don’t know why since what comes next is the same pattern.

Sounds about right (though, I never got less than 900k with it that I can recall). But many hits you get on the Plasma Beam definitely does make a measurable difference. About +/- 20k if I can remember, but once you tighten up the timing on calling the assist you can cut the variance in half pretty much. You ought to see around 910k+ pretty consistently though.

I’d probably constantly get 8xxk with it now as long as it has been since I’ve seriously used Doom though haha. Kinda want to pick him back up now that I’m playing on stick (too easy to get TACs when trying to air dash during combos with him on X360 pad imo) but I havn’t bothered since I’m pulling 950k with my current team, and the effectiveness of defensive Taskmaster. For that matter, my combos all end in the ability for Taskmaster to kill the whole roster with a DHC so long as I’ve got the meter. Best you can get out of Doom is into the 1.1 mil range or so unless you use “The Chair” or XF AFAIK. Pretty sure I’ll be cracking 1 mil for 1 meter if I’m able to consistently throw some staircasing in there, then my Viper will be on par with my Wesker in damage :wink: . Or that’s the plan anyway… but… Skyrim happens alot these days.

Its probably already posted somewhere but its to many pages to go thru. anybody know how do u cancel vipers focus attack into other moves like thunder knuckle

do the focus and hold down the S input and then do the special attack. Hold down the a/b/c input if u wanna do an ex move.

Two ways to use Doom’s beam assist with Viper (Hard and easy way). The relaunch with seismo xx instant burn kick Marlinpie does or you can use the beam to extend your combo right after the box loop.

If anyone is having problems finding the timing for the relaunch, I suggest you to try out the latter:

Whatever starter into L Seismo, box dash, falling j.H, j.S, (st.M + Beam assist), st.HxxTK M, S

After you cancel that last Thunder Knuckle, Doom’s beam will hit the falling opponent and you can dash up immediately into MHS for whatever air combo.

Can we see a video of that? I’m a visual learner xD

Of course. I added in the combo that I posted a while back with just plasma beam, since the beginning is the more confusing part. If anyone wants to see the enders with other assists, just ask.

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Thanks Kenny!

No problem man.

are there any hidden missile combo with viper ive looked through some of the thread and havent found any mention anyone care to help?

Also i for vipers most damaging bnb is it the staircase loop? and is it possible to do 1 rep of the box dash loop into the saircase i was thinking this would do alot of dmg meter and corner carrying, can someone correct me on this since my execution is so ass.

What combo extensions can viper get using sent drones and dante jam session.

So, this thread is way too bloated and unfocused (like most combo threads) to fined anything fundamental regarding go to solo combos so I’ll just ask this question: when the best time to use EX Seismo/Burn Kick/Thunder Knuckle to extend combos.

how viable is the stair case loop in a real match?

Could someone answer this please would clear up a few blanks with cv

Does anyone know a good combo with viper if someone eats a round harvest unblockable and is carried to super jump height?.