C.I.A. HQ: Viper Community Thread (NO C. VIPER TALK)

I have a feeling us Viper players feel this more than others since an off day with Zero/Wesker is still scrub mode powah.

Been busy-ish. Also making sure I have the complete idea right first. Trying to emulate the kind of gun-kata style you see in the cut screens and the mobility you see in her boss fight, but at the same time not making her too obviously good or similiar to others.

My current plan is to not give her a practical OTG as the rest was looking a bit strong.

Ughh. when A Viper player is off we crumble so much more than fucking Wesker or Zero… It’s aggravating.

The flip side is, when we are on point… “Lol Wesker. Lol Zero… Where’d you health bar run off too.”

Zero isnt that free to Viper. I still think he beats her.

I’ve got a team backing me up. I think with Strider the matchup is even. If you add to that the fact that Zero players aren’t very used to people just blowing them up for no reason… yeah.

Yeah. Zero players tend to have some type of automation that comes with their play style and the thing about Viper is that even though shes at a disadvantage most of the time you will find that Zero’s don’t ever recognize EX.moves. Also tri-dash j.L is a god send for whiff punishes on zero’s ground normals.

could you Talk more about how you are punishing Zero’s normals with tri-jA?

Whiff punishes for zero’s who try to hit confirm a drop down pizza slicer into st.M. Does pretty well on st.H to if timed right. IDK how I do it actually, but its one of my most used normals on zero trying to get a hit. I generally have a good understanding over Zero that I can make them whiff a normal if they’re playing flowchart. Either that or j.H does great for him being above me and I KNOW I have the frame advantage to use it. The thing about both those moves is that they are really fast. I’m not sure of the frames of them but I think jL is like 4-5 frames and j.H is 6 frames.

A lot of Zero’s have finally stopped using j.H to land a hit now. I commented a while ago on that it’s definitely not as safe as people make it out to be. You’ll see more Zero’s either using Sentsuizan or backwards air dash and teleport to the ground. I usually only make a lot of use of j.H if I’m playing air grab happy opponents.

I’m just babbling right now, but there are two teams I’ve been messing with lately that I think might be really, really, really good.

Morrigan/Felicia/Doom

RR/Frank/Strider

Frank could be switched out for alot of guys realistically, but I like the instant lvl5 he gets off a coon touch.

I’ve yet to seriously think about any team that doesn’t involve Zero or Viper. If I had to focus on a team without either of them it’d probably be focused on X-23, Jill, Ryu or Chris. All those characters really stand out as great, under used beasts.

Side question: Why isn’t Ryu’s Denjin mode not used more?

I can’t play a team if it doesn’t have either Zero or Viper, just feels so boring… Maybe Jill would be a good sub, but she seems looks like a full time character to me

I recently jumped on some sort of Haggar bandwagon. Damn, that character is fun to play. Definently feels like a ‘step down’ from Viper in some situations, but I can’t stop swinging that iron.

Point Haggar is legit.

I definitely feel like she’s a full time character. Everytime I start to watch the Assist Me episodes for her, I’m like: “That’s just way too much for right now”.

A good Haggar is so annoying… I play Predator1A on XBL, he placed 9th at Winter brawl with Haggar/Chris/Wesker. No matter how hard I try to lame him out, I always end up getting smacked by the pipe, grab or one of Haggar’s frame traps

We’re so use to flowchart haggar that when you finally get a good one you get mind-fucked.

So true, only wins against him were thanks to Dark Strider, lol

Haggar is legit. I honestly feel like he is flirting with A tier in this game now. Same with Chris. I have seen and run into so many random Haggar and Chris that are Godlike that eventually you have to start looking at the character… even though I have always thought Chris was legit.

Jill is indeed a full time character (or close to it). I am seriously comtemplating switching to her as my ain with Dante and Ammy because that team is the most fun for me. As much as I love Zero, I feel like using him too much will sort of dumb my overall gameplay down since Zero can pretty much autopilot and do everything he wants with ease. At least with Viper you need to be alert and on point for most. For Zero its just lighting, buster, divekick or another lightning, j. H, buster… yadda yadda yadda. Its fun in its own way, but I enjoy the challenge that Jill brings.[SIZE=4] I honestly just wish she could have 3 assists lol because I feel you are always lacking something between a lock down, horizontal, and OTG. [/SIZE]

We will see though. I have been much more focused on KOF13 as of late that I havent really practiced Marvel, just sort of played here and there.

A little something I’ve been working on:
http://danger-pixel.com/exploration/hyperguide/

I like this, basically it’s what the strategy guide should have been with a digital component