Brook Universal Fighting Board Thread

Aztec_Warrior · 2016-05-15T14:16:31.000Z

How simple is it to install into a old TE? I have the first version made. Does the pcb mount into the stick without any problems? Do I need to modify it to fit? How would I wire the actual joystick? (The JLF) What about the usb cable?

ShinMagus · 2016-05-15T15:15:18.000Z

Jasen_Hicks:

Teyah’s results are mostly garbage with no real science behind them. Take them with a lot of salt.

Well, I’m very grateful for his work (yours too, for sure :)), and I can tell you there’s a world of difference between my HRAP VX SA Kai (Xbox360) and my VLX Kuro/Hayabusa, two extremes in terms of PCB input lag. I use Honda in USF4, and 10 to 15 ms can make or break my visual-confirmed piano execution (c.lp into hands), since it’s challenging for me and I can tell I barely make it when I do. I notice my success rate is greater with the HRAP VX SA Kai, and the measured PCB lag values agree with this (though the Kai variation of the VX SA wasn’t tested, I’ve noticed it’s very, very good, and the original VX SA is the best in the Xbox360 table), so I don’t have to be paranoid. I’m happy that the Brook UFB is supposedly good and I’ll be able to drop the VLX’s stock PCB.

Falkentyne · 2016-05-15T16:58:04.000Z

Aztec_Warrior:

How simple is it to install into a old TE? I have the first version made. Does the pcb mount into the stick without any problems? Do I need to modify it to fit? How would I wire the actual joystick? (The JLF) What about the usb cable?

You can hot glue or tape it down. If the madcatz USB cable is soldered to the original PCB, then you either buy a USB A to B cable and use that port on the UFB, or solder the madcatz cable. If the madcatz has a JST connector on the USB, then you can just unplug it and use it on the UFB. BTW the UFB can accept 4 or 5 pin USB to JST cables (e.g. the Qanba q4raf USB cable fits on it). For wiring harness, you can either strip the ends by where the wires connect to the madcatz and use the screw holes on the UFB, or buy a 20 pin harness from paradise arcade and use the 20 pin UFB connector.

Wiring the front panel and the pole switch requires soldering unfortunately.

Aztec_Warrior · 2016-05-15T17:28:31.000Z

Falkentyne:

Aztec_Warrior:

How simple is it to install into a old TE? I have the first version made. Does the pcb mount into the stick without any problems? Do I need to modify it to fit? How would I wire the actual joystick? (The JLF) What about the usb cable?

You can hot glue or tape it down. If the madcatz USB cable is soldered to the original PCB, then you either buy a USB A to B cable and use that port on the UFB, or solder the madcatz cable. If the madcatz has a JST connector on the USB, then you can just unplug it and use it on the UFB. BTW the UFB can accept 4 or 5 pin USB to JST cables (e.g. the Qanba q4raf USB cable fits on it). For wiring harness, you can either strip the ends by where the wires connect to the madcatz and use the screw holes on the UFB, or buy a 20 pin harness from paradise arcade and use the 20 pin UFB connector.

Wiring the front panel and the pole switch requires soldering unfortunately.

I was thinking of just wiring the home button to the back button. I don’t really use the share/select/back button anyway. I don’t need the pole switch either. Would that gonna pose a problem on the stick? I was thinking of removing the home button and the switch completely and order a custom plexiglass without that areas showing. I want the panel to look cleaner. I can just use an A to B usb cable right? Just to avoid any soldering?

Falkentyne · 2016-05-15T18:09:31.000Z

Select button’s rather important. You either need that or you need the Touch Panel (TP) key. TP key is recommended because TP key becomes back/select in PS3/Xbox 360 mode, and Touch panel in PS4 mode. So you’re going to need Home/Guide, Start, and TPKey/Select.

There are two USB ports on the UFB. One requires soldering (or a JST connector), one takes a USB A to B cable.

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Aztec_Warrior · 2016-05-15T18:29:42.000Z

Falkentyne:

Select button’s rather important. You either need that or you need the Touch Panel (TP) key. TP key is recommended because TP key becomes back/select in PS3/Xbox 360 mode, and Touch panel in PS4 mode. So you’re going to need Home/Guide, Start, and TPKey/Select.

There are two USB ports on the UFB. One requires soldering (or a JST connector), one takes a USB A to B cable.
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/ps360/1665-3m-black-usb-cable.html?search_query=USB&results=34

Oh ok. I was thinking if that was the case I would get a sanwa sdm 18 and drill a hole for it. I’ll use that for home and leave start and back as they are. That should be fine right?

Vicko · 2016-05-16T06:16:09.000Z

please watch the video i posted above if you’re that worried about soldering one wire… lol

gekkekoe · 2016-05-17T16:11:29.000Z

For ppl that didn’t wire the share button, how are you doing the firmware update (since you need to hold share + home) ?

krieg · 2016-05-17T16:41:03.000Z

TheGlow:

mR_CaESaR:

Vicko:

Obligatory…

https://www.instagram.com/p/BB8jZ4qEbto

Damn that’s an extremely massive tip…I’m pretty confident with my soldering but my tip is far from that thick, I think I’ll end up bridging everything lol

Im using the same old stank $15 radioshack special. this thing doesnt even tin anymore. Its all Black and 1 spot on the side that will kind of hold solder and I had no problem doing awg30 stuff on my xbox360.
When I have a better place/store stuff ill look into one with variable settings and tips.
Hell im still using an analog radioshack multimeter to test continuity. By the time i get the leads in place and look up at the dial, theyve moved around. I usually need to 2x and 3x check everything to make sure its good.

For that iron, you can get more life out of it even if the tip is irreplaceable. Find some pavement or a bit of sandpaper and get that soot off of there for more surface area. It’s a little shadetree but works in a pinch.

Brook_Engineer · 2016-05-17T20:15:47.000Z

pomp:

Will there ever be a home button macro like ps360 has? It’s hard to recommend it to friends with older sticks when, despite everything else being braindead easy, they’ll have to either learn how to solder or drill new buttons into their case in order to get full functionality.

gekkekoe:

For ppl that didn’t wire the share button, how are you doing the firmware update (since you need to hold share + home) ?

it’s necessary to wire that if you need to do firmware update

gekkekoe · 2016-05-17T20:22:58.000Z

so basically required since every ps4 update required a new firmware. then I’ll just leave it as it is.

the firmware update combo buttons, can that be changed by by a future firmware? it might be better to map it to the options+home button

Brook_Engineer · 2016-05-17T20:33:21.000Z

gekkekoe:

so basically required since every ps4 update required a new firmware. then I’ll just leave it as it is.

the firmware update combo buttons, can that be changed by by a future firmware? it might be better to map it to the options+home button

thanks for your suggestion, we will discuss.

Falkentyne · 2016-05-17T21:02:08.000Z

@Brook_Engineer
@GOGO.Zippy

Since TPKey is “Options/Select” if not on PS4, you should use both “TP key” and “Original Select” + Home/Xbox key for update. Since some people don’t wire “old select” anymore and use TPkey instead.

So…FW update should accept “Home” AND TPkey or Home+Old Select.

I think this is a good suggestion right?

Brook_Engineer · 2016-05-17T21:35:57.000Z

Falkentyne:

@Brook_Engineer
@GOGO.Zippy

Since TPKey is “Options/Select” if not on PS4, you should use both “TP key” and “Original Select” + Home/Xbox key for update. Since some people don’t wire “old select” anymore and use TPkey instead.

So…FW update should accept “Home” AND TPkey or Home+Old Select.

I think this is a good suggestion right?

=)

GOGO.Zippy · 2016-05-18T09:30:01.000Z

Hi All Guys.
We will release new firmware file to support Pokken Tournament on Wii U.

Press 1K(Pokken Tournament) then plug UFB on Wii U.

Coming soon…

chipface · 2016-05-18T11:02:44.000Z

Just for Pokken Tournament? Will it support Smash Bros.?

GOGO.Zippy · 2016-05-18T11:16:58.000Z

chipface:

Just for Pokken Tournament? Will it support Smash Bros.?

@chipface
Sorry…
On Smash Bros, Left and Right analogous stick output specify skills.

braves01 · 2016-05-19T03:58:18.000Z

I got my replacement UFB and Jasen board a few days ago. Took about 10 mins to put in and works flawlessly now. Shout outs to Arcadeshock, Jasen, Brook, and everyone else in this thread for the help.

Solodus · 2016-05-24T06:58:58.000Z

Hi guys I’m new to SRK and I recently purchased a UFB for my custom stick. Do you guys know what type of switch I should use to solder to J7. Could you also tell me where to find one? I really wanna use this thing in LS mode so I can play arena fighters. Thanks for your help!

Falkentyne · 2016-05-24T07:50:01.000Z

You can use a SPDT or SP3T switch. To use an SPDT switch, ground one side and hook the other pin to LS, then you can use LS or DP (default).
If you want RS, you need an SP3T switch. I don’t know why RS would ever be needed though.

My Qanba Q4raf already had an SPDT switch hooked up to ground on the front panel (Thanks, @Vicko !), so that just required a wire going to LS. You can try to find one for a new cabinet here: http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/switches/selector-switches/1114766