That’s because they know how to write multi-dimensional women in Boardwalk Empire. Women have the least character development and importance in Breaking Bad.
I like Walt the most by far, and yes I’m (most likely fruitlessly) hoping/rooting for him to come out on top. Above all I understand and respect his pragmatism. Initially he got into the game hoping he’d make enough money and cancer would take him out. He never planned on living. When his money got short he had to go deeper to dig himself out, and I don’t think his cancer remission was all that much of a relief for him. Although the “doing it for family” motivation pretty much died with Gus I still get him. Walter White is practically THE definition of anti-hero. He’s not without morals, but for him the ends always justify the means; this is not synonymous with being amoral.
It’s ironic to say that he’s without morals when quite possibly his most benevolent decision has been his anchor throughout almost the entire show, and that’s keeping Jessie alive. He knew early on, and even Gus mentioned that a junkie is not someone to go into business with. If he had’ve cut ties with Jessie in between the first and second meeting with Gus, as a true amoral person would, this would be a very different show. Jessie has been the cause of everything bad to happen to Walt. Walt saw Jessie as a surrogate son and he tried to protect him for the entire run of the show. A true amoral person would have (and he should have) had Gus kill Jessie, and he could’ve kept more money for himself, and had a far more competent lab assistant.
That situation was more complex… he brought on jesse as a partner to protect hank and make Jesse drop the charges after all
You’re getting the timeline mixed up. The meetings with Gus were way before Hank beat up Jessie, and I’m not sure when Hank ever needed protecting outside of the heads up phone call. Oh and that’s just MORE Jessie fallout. If Jessie had’ve been dead, Hank would’ve never been able to follow him to the junkyard. He’d have never found the RV. Obviously he’d have never beaten up Jessie, therefore he’d still have his weapon, and he’d have been able to defend himself when he was attacked.
edit: Oh BTW the people talking about Hank hitting on the assistant? principal should go back and watch that episode again. I don’t think he was really trying to hit on her. He wanted to get put on leave so he’d have more time to cook. That happened when his schedule was getting tight.
I think taking that job offer and not cooking meth would have been an excellent defense to ensure his family’s survival. And his.
Hell, let’s assume everything went hunky dory, he sold his meth, made his 737 figure, and got out of the game with no targets on his back or Jesse’s. How would that money get dispersed anyway? How was he going to tell his family about it, or explain it to any legal entities watching? Who knows how Skyler would have reacted to him telling her he cooked meth for that money right before he dies? What would she tell Junior?
Him taking that offer, while it wouldn’t have been an immediate “OK, they’re set for good” answer, was still the best thing to do. He let that go, because of his pride. I’m not Team Anything here; I’m just in awe of the show. But it’s always strange to see people forget this opportunity, or any other opportunity he had to not make things worse (like telling Hank Heisenberg’s still out there).
I’m Mr. DaeLayte again… Jesus fuck
I unliked this 9 times so I could like it 10
God damn, I’m still on page 38. Some of you are terrible people. Stay the fuck away from me
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LOL at you guys thinking Jesse is staying as a bitch drug slave. He is going to slay Todd get Brock and his lady and get the fuck outta dodge, what did he do with the money he was going to pay the vacuum man with?
Junior can’t muscle Walt though, too much fiber in his diet, there isn’t any protein in cereal. Come on Vince terrible inaccuracy…God…
You guys showed me the light of the Walt phone call I completely missed his actual intentions, thanks for that. I’m dumb.
I like that Gomi got a “Featuring” credit… Featured as a corpse for about a minute of screen time. Hank went out like a boss, fuck you guys who think Walt is so cool//smart. Nazi’s didn’t have ANY FUCKING IDEA what they were doing out in the desert Walt goes: “Oh I have 80 million dollars in the ground at that exact point I told you!!!” Walt is only chemistry genius who has been good at criminal shit because he hasn’t seen anybody he cared about killed, until now… when he lost his shit and he did, you nuthuggers. He even went back on his actions in the very same episode, returning Holly. He’s just butthurt at Jesse because Jesse wanted to get out.
Jesse kills walt.
Manx, or whoever…I think Manx, will be right about Marie tagging “Heisenberg”
She fucked Ted before she knew Walt was a criminal…she ultimately went along with laundering his money and was ultimately a willing participant…she suggested he killed Jesse…yeah a real gem…biggest disappointment was when that cunt didn’t drown herself.
When are you suggesting he kill Jesse? He had split from Jesse completely, until he found out Hank was going after the RV. Then they got twisted together again, and Walt had to reluctantly kick out Gale to bring in Jesse to save hank.
He cut all ties with Jesse when he got involved with Gus full time. He only got mixed back up with Jesse over the RV, causing him to bring Jesse back in to prevent Hank from losing his job
lol @ people STILL thinking Walt did it all for his family
Prediction: The last episode of Breaking Bad will be the first episode of Malcolm in the Middle.
I will lose it if Vince just gives everyone a slight nod to the idea of this little internet theory. I mean it has to have reached him and even been mentioned as a joke on the set. All I would want is for Walt during his last conversation with Saul to go something like:
Saul: “Listen, I hate to be the bearer of what is obviously bad news, but your family is gone. Your life here is gone, so I’ll call my guy, you be at the spot, you disappear and you start over. Get a new life, find a new job, get married again and have kids. Maybe marry a brunette this time…”
Here’s a report on the complete series.
This is one of the features:
Alternate Ending – A 3-minute alternate version of how Breaking Bad could have ended.
Remember earlier on in the year, Jane Ka-whatever (Lois from Malcolm in the Middle) was on the set of Breaking Bad? And this ending’s only 3 minutes? How much do you want to bet the Malcolm thing is that alternate ending? If it is it, I will collapse from awesomeness.
Back on to the series right now:
Major 514 spoilers:
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With Hank dead, I’m quite sure Marie won’t take Walt’s attempt to bail Skyler out of culpability in his schemes lying down. I’m anxious to see what she does.
No she didn’t.
Are you saying that a character, when put in a shitty position, opted to take some sort of criminal action instead of exploring a safer, more moral option? Gee, it’s a good thing nobody else on the show has ever done that, or we’d have to hate that character too!
what the fuck is with you assholes making anime references? and AWFUL anime references at that?
you have an opportunity to enjoy an amazing show as it unfolds week by week. stop trying to make it seem like any of the taste cancerous J-toon shows you watch are comparable in any way.
Jesus Christ.
and you don’t be a dick either. why the fuck are you posting *Looper * over anything *Brick *related? terrible.
I agree and I love all those moments where if one thing had of gone differently the whole show would have been totally different.
There are so many of them in Breaking Bad.
Had me at red tag. Gonna watch this. :tup:
Rewatched the latest ep tonight. Even though I knew what was coming, I still had a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. This is filmmaking par excellence.
Also, I just read that the opening scene of this ep was the last day of shooting for the whole series. Now go back and watch it as Walt, Jesse and the RV fade out of the shot, leaving the landscape empty of any trace of their existence, and try not to shed a tear.
That’s the entire point. The way to truly cut ties with someone is to make sure they end up dead. Taking out a junkie and disposing of an RV would have been nothing for Gus. Even after Hank beat him up Jessie could have still eventually “disappeared.” You’re forgetting that Gus wanted to kill Jessie when he found out the two guys killed his friend. That’s when a true amoral person would have just stayed out of the way and let it happen. He was completely useless at that point, and not letting Jessie end up dead is what made everything truly fall apart for Walt.
I’m not sure I’d call Walt amoral, full stop, but he definitely has some amoral tendencies, and–I know I’m not imagining this–at least some of his deep-rooted concern for family (Jesse included) is founded on his need to reassure himself that he’s still in the right. As long as he doesn’t expend much thought on all the things he could have done for his family without betraying their trust or placing them in danger, he can rationalize his criminal activities–make them palatable to his sense of himself as a man who is simply providing for his own.
But treating people as things to be used or disposed of goes beyond simple pragmatism, and Walt’s self-serving tendencies have been firmly in the driver’s seat ever since he turned down Elliot’s job offer. He’s not an all-out psychopath by any means, but amoral? In many cases, you betcha.
On the subject of psychopaths, I almost feel like Todd was written into the show as a demonstration of how far Walt hasn’t gone.