Precisely.
Walt was my favorite character until season 5. Once this season started they turned him into something legitimately unlikable.
Go back and re-watch episode 12 of season 2. WW broke in Jesse’s house and tried to wake him up and because of this Jesse’s body hits the girl’s body. She rolls over on her back and you know the rest. She died as a result. Cause and effect, my nigga.
And that whole time, WW was thinking, ‘hey, I can save her life by simply flipping her on side to prevent her choking on her own vomit.’ But he didn’t. He saw her as a roadblock in his and Jesse’ operation, and dealt with it, quite.
One thing I don’t understand:
When Lydia saw Mike for the first time this season at the coffee shop, that was in New Mexico. Same episode, when Mike went to kill her it was in her home. Her office and warehouse is in Houston. He made it there the same day he had to deal with Chow in the same neighborhood. How the hell did he make it all the way there so fast? Assuming she lives in Houston, anyway.
EDIT: Okay she for sure lives in Houston. What the hell?
Walt still hasn’t reached to the heights of power I still feel he’s capable of doing, at least for a short while. I think the series of disasters will occur in the next 8 eps.
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People walt has killed
[details=Spoiler]1) Emilio (I think that was his name)
2) Crazy 8
3) Let Jane die
4) Gangster 1 station wagon SMASH
5) Gangster 2 BLAM to the head
6) Gus
7) Tyrus
8) Hector? Y/n?
9) Henchman guarding laundromat
10) Henchman watching over Jesse
Aaaaaaaand… 11) Mike
Walt has killed ~11 ppl.
Even with the ? out, he’s killed 9 fucking ppl! =O!
I imagine that number will increase in the season finale. Jesse, Skyler…? Just don’t kill Saul ;_____; please don’t[/details]
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Walt has done many fucked up things, I don’t think letting Jane die was one of them. 3 seasons later, it’s easy to hate on Walt, but during that episode. The best way to handle that situation was to do nothing.
Remember, she straight up threaten to snitch Walt out, Walt said he didn’t want to give that money to Jesse because he didn’t want him to shoot it up. What did Jesse and Jane do right after they got that money? From Walt’s perspective, not only was letting Jane die a sure way that she couldn’t come after him later, he was also getting Jesse back in the process.
Jane was the only person in BrBa that knew what Walt did, and was not in anyway tied into the drug game, she a huge liability.
I wouldn’t exactly call killing Gale manipulation on Walt’s end. Walt just took advantage of Jesse loyalty knowing he will do Walt a favor for saving him with those gangbangers.
But I do agree with pretty much everything else outside of Gale and Jane.
i hated jane anyway i was glad he let her die… but think about something , jesse would have been like wtf are you doing here breaking into my house if he woke everybody up or put her on her side. Killing Gale was a smart move because Gale was meant to replace him.
Gale was still a guy who had done absolutely nothing wrong to Walt, not even so much as threatened to sing karaoke to him. The cold-blooded murder of Gale is solid evidence that, by that point, Walt no longer saw other people as human beings. If you’re not deeply ingratiated into Walt’s inner circle (and maybe even if you are), you’re a means to an end at best. An object. A tool.
Killing Gale is a smart move if Gale is no more human to you than a flyswatter or a shoe or a broomstick.
And Jesse didn’t wake up when Walt entered. He didn’t wake up when his girlfriend choked to death right next to him. He wouldn’t have woken up if Walt had propped Jane up, and even if he had woken up, it would be pretty ludicrous to be mad at Walt after he saved Jane’s life.
Bad guy or not, deserved it or not, you know for a fact that if he wasn’t killed Walt would be. Gus forced his hands. You can’t exactly call someone selfish or deeply immoral for acting in self-defense. I’m sure you would of done something similar, or died
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Forced his hands, my ass. The position he found himself in with Gus was the result of a loooooong chain of events which he set into motion and kept going every step of the way.
Walt goes to destroy the RV and doesn’t tell Jesse, because in that moment, in Walt’s capricious view of Jesse, Jesse was just a peon who didn’t need or deserve to know anything. And that is, indeed, how Walt treats Jesse, except when he’s either feeling emotionally needy (treats him like a son) or he needs him to do something (lavishes him with praise, guarantees equal partnership, etc.). Conclusion: Walt fucked up.
Jesse, lacking the vital information, shows up to the lot where the RV is kept, understandably upset. Walt’s solution for getting out of this situation is specifically designed to keep himself anonymous. Jesse’s ongoing safety doesn’t even cross his mind. Conclusion: Walt fucked up.
Walt has his laboratory gig with Gale, which is a cozy situation. As Mike accurately observes later, they had a good thing going. But Walt can’t stand Gale. Walt can’t stand anybody who can get on his level. Walt needs somebody he can be superior to. Walt wanted to get rid of Gale even before it became necessary to appease Jesse’s rage against Hank, so sacking Gale and bringing Jesse into the superlab operation (with yet another manipulative and empty promise of equal partnership) was satisfying two megalomaniacal urges with one stone. Conclusion: Walt doubly fucked up.
After the fiasco with Jesse and the corner dealers, Gus understandably comes to view Walt as an unstable element. If not for Walt’s hypocritical belief that he could do no wrong, he would absolutely agree with Gus. After all, Walt respects (or professes to respect) Gus’s professionalism. And a professional operation does not tolerate unstable elements. All of Walt’s stupidity, neuroses, self-aggrandizement, contempt for others… if it weren’t for those things, his life would never have been in danger. He could have continued to be the best meth cook in the best meth operation in the country.
But Walt can’t just be the cook. He has to be the chef. Pretty much every problem he’s had ever since his cancer was removed has stemmed directly from that. And that includes blustering his way into an untenable situation in which his solution was to [S]clean up an annoying detail[/S] kill a man.
I’m pretty sure Walt sacked Gale because Jesse was threatening to out him to the DEA after he got all emotional being battered by Hank. It was more of a way to appease Jesse to stay quiet than to fulfill hjis ego.
Walt killing the corner dealers…You can’t chalk that up to bad writing honestly. Because in the real world that would not have happened. Walt would be the last person to ruin a good thing like that. This is a tv show. If the protagonist doesn’t do stupid shit every now and then there is no show.
Not much has changed since the beginning of the show. Walt is still killing to protect himself with the exception of killing Mike. You can’t just lay down if you want to keep living. People have to be stepped on and killed so that Walt can have his empire.
bingo. walt doesn’t want an empire by NECESSITY, it’s as goodmourning says - it’s just another one of his megalomaniacal desires.
He could have gotten out of the game a long time ago. Sure, he has to face prison and possibly worse, but if “protecting” himself results in harming so many other people (look at my post, walt has killed at least 9 people, and there are a lot more “extraneous” bodies that have piled up, not including the plane crash) then how can you argue that it is moral or not selfish at all?
I mean, clearly Walt values his own life over others. But there’s a reason he wasn’t a leader in Grey Matter by the time the show started. As you said, this IS a TV show and these things happen for reasons beyond Walt having to break up with Gretchen (which i believe is the catalyst for him leaving). It’s simply because Walt is cut from a different cloth. He isn’t a genius who could have been a $1.6 billionaire, he’s a floundering meth cook and a murderer. Breaking Bad wouldn’t be the TV show it is if you could just “root” for Walt. It ain’t that easy.
EDIT: That’s what I’ve had on the brain lately. I mean, seriously. He needs money for cancer treatment, so what does he decide to do? Cook meth! Grey Matter offered him the money. Why not live comfortable knowing your family is provided for, even at the expense of Walt’s pride and ego? That seems like a selfless thing to do. Instead…? He broke bad.
The question is, how believable is it for the rest of you that Walt suddenly goes from wanting 700k to wanting more than 5 million? Is it convincing that Walt’s character would suddenly become that greedy and stupid, or is it more believable that he is merely following a script given to him.
It’s 100% believable if you let go of the notion that it’s the money that he cares about… which, by now, the show has practically shouted at the top of its lungs.
I think the main thing we all want to know at this point is if, when and where ‘Franch dressing’ (50% French dressing, 50% ranch) will become available.
That shit sounded SO good. I wanted to try making it myself, but I don’t eat enough salad for that.