Breaking Bad

Re-watching this on Blu-Ray and after Face Off I saw parallels of Death Note:

[details=Spoiler]Walt = Light
Gus = L
Tio = Rem
Tyrus = Watari[/details]

Yes because the show being American had anything to do with it’s ending or quality and it’s not like the vast majority of other countries aren’t dominated by American shows anyway.

Is this show still on the air or are you stuck-in-the-past motherfuckers still beating a dead horse?

Just here to let everyone know, FARGO is the new Breaking Bad

^ wouldn’t go that far but fargo is good and best show on tv now.

I agree. He doesn’t really control anything and doesn’t have much influence on his own. Saul, more than anybody, does most of the hard mental work and if anything, takes far more number of risks than Walt does. Without Saul Goodman, Walt can get nothing done because Saul has all the connections that Walt needs and he knows how to game the system.

I’m working my way through it. It gets better when Saul comes on board.

I think you guys are mistaking what a “real drug lord” is supposed to be and what Walt is. Yes, he’s not a typical drug lord. Yes, lots of the things he did was reactionary. Even with wikipedia, the very first sentence is “A drug lord, drug baron, kingpin, or narcotrafficker is a person who controls a sizable network of persons involved in the illegal drug trade.” Does Walt fit this definition? You can try and argue or justify whatever you like, but he’s the one controlling the meth, he’s the one who OK’d taking it overseas, etc.

He’s not as horrible as the other criminals in the show, but he’s still a bad guy. At least with Dexter, he had a traumatic upbringing which made him the psycho-killer. Even then, he uses it for “good” and tries to live by a code to kill bad people. What is Walt’s justification for doing all of this? Did he actually need to cook in the first place?

He cooked meth in the first place because he got cancer and couldn’t afford the treatments on a 40K a year salary while raising a family.

whatever happened to Ted Beneke felt like a plot hole

Isn’t Ted crippled and still terrified about Skylar and Walt’s “goons”?

I think that kinda explains itself, unless you’re onto something else I may have missed

He’s playing Halo with his daughters

It’s like he didn’t even watch the show.

So are you guys forgetting how Gretchen and Elliot Schwartz would have happily given him a comfortable job and/or paid for his treatment? He didn’t have to cook meth in the first place.

They never explicitly stated what led to Walter falling out with both of them (Gretchen two-fold) but I’d say it wasn’t mutual. Maybe Walt always had the ego/Heisenberg in him and doing meth was his own pet project, to solidify his own purpose in life before dying.

I personally think the Gray Matter split was because of pussy lol. Best friends don’t date exes or something of that nature. Rarely has Walt shown attraction to any other female not Holly/Marie/Skyler outside of Principal Carmen, but that attempt was his counter attack towards Skyler’s fling with Ted.

It’s Walt’s ego; always has been. it’s been said before, but the behind-the-scenes story between Walt and Gretchen (that never got to air) is that he was her boyfriend, but met her family, who were rich and privileged. He didn’t feel like he belonged. That’s why he broke it off. Elliot didn’t come into play. I’m probably butchering a part of the story, but that’s the gist.

^ Yeah that too. I just dwelled on it some more as it felt too weak of a reason.

OH MY DAMN. I just saw the 8 minute Kayden Kross special deleted scene from “Gliding Over All”. My body was not ready

I’m hoping Bill Burr makes an appearance in Better Call Saul. I was hyped when I first heard he was in Breaking Bad and loved his character, even if he didn’t get much air time.

Walt was in the empire business, not the drug business, he fucked it once, when he sold his shares of gray matter, he literally gave it away for a few pennies, an action he regretted the rest of his life.

Was that what Gilligan states? The shows doesn’t really say, but that wouldn’t surprise me much.

As for refusing the money, I would refuse it too. And I can understand feeling out of place at a privileged family.

He did find a way to pay for the treatments. And Hank’s treatments. And he did manage to find a way to even provide for his family on his death. He succeeded in all his goals, except his rocky father-son relationship with Jesse, although Junkie Jessie was enough of a screw-up on his own.

I think Jesse and Walt Jr. were the only two characters of the main cast never to actually meet each other.