You completely missed the point. Gus was a very important person back in his home country, which is why the Don didn’t kill him.
Is Gus related to some powerful leader in Chile or something? That is what I kinda wanted to know
A person must be in the league with some influential people if even the Cartel won’t kill them
he was affiliated with Pinochet, and was likely a high end military asset or spy who turned to drug dealer.
IIRC didn’t Young Hector address Gus as “Generalissimo” during the Cousins flashback? It wasn’t subtitled, that was said literally…
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Having that said, I don’t think it’s as black and white about White pretending to be a badass.
He did run over that guy. He put a bullet in the other guys head. He blew up Tuco’s office. He walked up to
I don’t think the angle for those actions were necessarily to prove himself to anyone. I’m not disputing that he was out of his depth, entering a world he was largely unfamiliar with, but he was catching up for sure.
Like I said, high ranking military asset.
I always assumed Walt just have zero fucks, that’s what made him a badass
Gus had drug dealer tenure since the 90s.
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I finally finished the series. Surprisingly, nobody spoiled it for me. Ending was pretty messed up, IMO. Going into the last half, I thought it would end up on a more positive note. Still good, but I was pretty sad how some characters ended, even minor ones that IMO were unnecessarily shown.
Looking at you, Andrea.
Andrea being collateral damage was unfortunately essential to the narrative
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I don’t really think it was. Mind elaborating the significance of what happened with Andrea?
The only reason Jesse didn’t get capped for escaping the Nazis was so that Jack makes sure his nephew Todd gets sum Lydia woodchipper. And Andrea/Brock was the leverage to make Jesse cook for them in the first place, still crestfallen from the revelation that Walt had a hand (or not, heh) in Jane’s demise. Eliminating Andrea, leaving Brock in the care of his grandma but new targets, kept Jesse in check and completely trapped until Walt came back.
I understand the threat and how it kept Jesse in line. I’m more of wondering why the writers decided it was necessary to off Andrea rather than the threat of hurting her/Broc would be necessary. Something made the writers decide, “You know what? Let’s kill her instead.” Let’s say they just left it at just the threat and no actual harm was done on Andrea/Broc. If Jesse stayed to cook for them, would it have taken anything away from the show? I don’t think so.
I’m not really complaining. Just wondering why they wanted to kill Andrea specifically but left the other minor characters survive relatively unscathed like Skinny Pete, Badger, maybe even Marie.
I was gonna say mostly as a statement that Jesse and Walt can’t be big time drug dealers in a vacuum. No matter their intentions they will hurt the people close to them the longer they go on.
I think using andrea’s family as a backdrop
With her brother getting snuffed out. Brock getting poisoned. And with her murder on the front porch. Seems like a ton of shit to put a family through.
Just started watching this about a week or two ago. I’m up to the 5th season now. I don’t usually watch TV but I obviously heard about it and wanted to give it a shot, and then got hooked.
I somehow managed to avoid all the spoilers to how this thing ends, or actually anything that happens in it at all.
A couple of things I don’t get though. Gustavo initially claims he doesn’t want to control people with fear, and that he’s a reasonable, cautious businessman, but obviously he does like using force and intimidation and he quickly starts going to that. Was Gustavo just shitting people early and is there something I’m missing on that? Seems like things could have gone a lot easier in a lot of ways if he maintained control earlier on.
Does Gustavo order the hit on Andrea’s brother? He says no kids, and then of course the kid dies and then those two dealers just stand there smirking after Gustavo demands they keep the peace. They wouldn’t have acted out on their own most likely, so what was the game there? Can’t have expected Walt to save Jesse, but if he really wanted to get rid of Jessie right then it’s quite a turnaround to then have Jesse run the lab, under force no less.
Season 4 looked like a logical ending, but I know it goes 2 more seasons, so i’ll see what happens. It’s a good experience, I can see why people liked it. Honestly though a lot of it seems a little too high level and too edgy for the typical dumb American audience. I’m surprised soccer moms weren’t demanding it get taken off TV for violence and glorifying drugs, smoking, and baldness.
Personal theory time!
Gustavo was indeed a reasonable and cautious businessman; however, his ultimate goal was settling things with… That one group. It was more important than anything else, and if anything got in the way, he wasn’t afraid to resort to murder, intimidation, and blackmail if he had to. Walt, indirectly, became an obstacle (quite possibly because he wasn’t aware or informed of Gus’s plans), and so he started getting the same treatment. Jessie’s involvement in the resolution of that whole issue shows that, if Walt hadn’t become crazy-paranoid, things would have worked out better for everyone.
I’d say Gustavo did order the hit on Andrea’s brother, and quite directly. Recall that Gustavo said “no more kids” when he was informed of the matter. He meant it quite literally.
Well I’m finished. Just what happened with grey matter to make Walt leave it/get kicked out? We never did get that answer, just vagueness.
I agree with the person that said Walt isn’t really badass. At least for most of the series. He’s actually kind of a coward begging for his life most of the time, with a giant ego that gets him into trouble. He has the brains but his personality is atrocious and he makes some ridiculous mistakes too from overconfidence.
I have to kind of sympathize with Saul’s character. Poor bastard has to solve everyone’s problems but they treat him like shit anyway, and obviously he doesn’t make enough money to really be well off. That’s actually pretty close to what the practice of law really is like for your non-corporate/transactional types.
I was laughing at Jesse’s plight the last few episodes. That probably makes me a bad person.
The first half of the series was kind of funny with it being “white people problems” with Skyler, Beneke, Walt, Hank, Marie all being drama queens at various times. I’m glad it didn’t go full on though and the second half we didn’t really get cliches or anything.
I still think pretty much everyone was just a psycho. I get guys like Tuco, they’re users. But the non-users being violent psychopaths all the time, well I guess power corrupts or something. Mike managed to run around violently intimidating and killing people but Jesse still loves him and hates Walt, which is kind of funny because Walt is no more psychotic or violent than the rest of them, actually probably much less so. When it comes down to it, Walt usually didn’t have the balls to kill someone, until he was completely pushed into a corner and forced and even then it was usually relying on someone else to actually make the kill (Jesse on Tuco and Gale with the Hank assist, Tio on Gustavo, a remote control device at the last episode, heck even asks people to off Jesse for him and never does do it himself). Who does Walt directly kill, pulling the trigger himself? Ok maybe Todd’s crew at the end, I can give that, and Lydette or whatever her name was with the poison, but that’s a real low body count compared to all the other nutjobs on there. Oh yeah and the guys that Jesse was going to get offed by for killing the kids. Jesse I believe has the higher body count though.
I always got the impression that the side stories of Walt’s family were appeasement to those actors or something. This show was always about Walt, not Walt’s family and friends. But yeah, hard to imagine someone looking back on BB and thinking “wow, that stolen tiara storyline was good shit” 