Breaking Bad

theres always Game of Thrones, at least 4 seasons of it.

Walt’s ego is bigger than all of SRK’s posters combined…that’s almost impossible.

Dude makes so many easily avoidable mistakes because of his Ego it’s incredible. I could easily buy into that he doesn’t like people being as smart as him, I feel he’d rather be frustated with dumb people than deal with being the least intelligent person in the room and things run smoothly.

I also don’t get why Skyler get so much shit all over the internet so far. Lori from Walking Dead was 50x times worse than she is, at least Skyler’s motivations are consistant and usually logical. She knew she could work that dude into an easy job because of his crush.

Although I haven’t seen the whole series yet maybe she’ll get worse but from her character so far she seems fine, and putting up with more shit than most people would. Walt Jr is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy more annoying and I know he’s some kind of hanicapped but he’s also a doofus and a dumbass.

Saul is amazing, probably my favorite character. I totally see why they’d give him a show and I’m definitely gonna watch it.

Anna Gunn would have you believe its sexism, which I wouldn’t write off, but I think it has a lot more to do with viewers cognitive dissonance regarding Walt. People want to root for him, so they ignore that he’s tearing his family apart, and they pin the discontent in the White family on Skylar. When she cheated on Ted it was the nail in the coffin for her character to lots of people. It’s not too dissimilar to people blaming Jesse for Walt’s inability to carry on the mythical flawless and safe meth production operation.

But hey, lay off Walt Jr! He’s in high school, and every high schooler is a doofus. I think his character has always been more about being the one innocent in the cast to contrast all the darker main characters. It’s not like he could really have any decent storyline of his own compared to the rest of the cast. What are the gonna do, show the drama of his driving test?? Even Marie’s stupid stealing subplot I could have done without entirely.

Saul is the king.

uhhh, didnt he switch out gale because he knew that they were trying to get someone to eventually replace him, which ended up with gales eventual murder also. i know there are other smaller speculations to be had as to why, but walt pretty much knew what was going to end up happening with the gale situation.

I also buy into the idea that Gale was the competition in a business sense, rather than an intellectual one. I don’t think Walt felt challenged by Gale’s intellect. I think Walt perhaps found him slightly irritating, he was almost coming onto Walt and I can see why Walt would have been bugged by that.

Nah, that didn’t become a factor until later on when Walt fed a bumper sandwich to those two corner dealers.

The way Gus originally wanted it was that Gale was supposed to run the lab. But Gale insisted on getting That Guy Who Does The Blue Meth, assuring Gus that the product would be way better as a result (this, in itself, with good reason), so Gus took him up on it by pairing them up.

Which doesn’t seem like a mistake that Gus circa season 3 would make, considering that he pretty much had Walt pegged from the get-go, but… oh well.

EDIT:

Gus circa season 2, actually. It’s weird to think about how early he appeared, but he was pretty much hot on the heels of Tuco.

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I generally think BB does a great job creating plausible plots, but I have to agree, Gus’s decision to work with Walt seemed out of character for a man who had been running that business safely and discretely for 20 years. Maybe it was just to emphasize how toxic Walt is? Iirc Gale’s purity was just a couple percentage points below Walts.

Gale was such a fuckin weirdo

Gale’s awesome. I hope they do a prequel series for him, too.

It was a little out of character, knowing what we know now. But at that point, Gus was new and undeveloped, so maybe it’s unfair to criticize such a development on that basis. Chalk it up to early installment weirdness.

Nope, I can’t get behind that interpretation. Those little moments are to contrast Gale to Jesse, and show how he’s upgraded from a street kid making chili powder meth via a cook book, to an actual scientist who knows the chemistry. Walt wasn’t annoyed at those moments, he was impressed, and enjoying his life. He had a professional environment, somebody to stimulate him intellectually (something he’d been missing for a loooooooong time, probably since gretchen, hence the flashbacks).

The reason for bringing jesse back in wasn’t because he wanted to have somebody to shit on, it was because he needed Jesse under control and he didn’t want to have to send him to Belize. Period. Another case of Walt sparing Jesse’s life, and having it negatively affect his own.

He could have gone on cooking with Gale until his Cancer killed him, and lived happily ever after, in my mind. Until, of course, his greed would have got the better end of him.

If Walt really loathed Gale, why did he keep the Walt Whitman poem book in his bathroom.bedside? It’s because he actually liked the guy. Sure it’s a bit of an ego thing as well, I’m sure, but Walt liked gale no doubt in my mind.

i think it was in the 80s in purity, which would be more then enough for run of the mill meth heads and even high end clientele. the whole gus story is just breaking bad being breaking bad. lots of shit decisions that made no sense. his death exploited a plausable weakness in his character and was dope, but most of everything before that was iffy. gus would have had that shit running super smooth and had them fools fearing even having a thought of crossing him.

Earth beeeeeloooow us, driffffting, faaaaallling…

Gale was a weirdo yeah.

My theory on why Gus worked with Walt was because Gus seemed to value the chemistry. Remember Gale had a scholarship from him set up because of Gus’s friend / partner (speculations) that Hector shot. I think Gus intended to simply kill Walt to remove the competition of his product but Gale made a fairly compelling argument for how blown away by it he was and Gus is the kind of man that wants perfection. You see his passion with cooking food, you can draw comparisons between that and making meth.

Just because he was a vegetarian doesn’t make Gale that big a weirdo. He was a quirky guy and was probably written has the archetypical science egg head with no social dynamic but the only weird thing about him I saw was that he was in a relationship with Gus at all. Smart guys with no balls arent people you would imagine that makes pristine meth for a drug baron when they are shown as quirky as Gale, unless ofc underneath all his virgin bullshit was a sociopath he never got the screen time to erupt into bad ass killer like Walt did.

Gus taking on Walt was probably a number of things, such as taking out competition whilst simultaneously improving his own meth quality/production with a more reliable scientist (walt had a family that could have been used as leverage) and since Gale was portrayed as a loner, apart from the threat against his life Gus really didnt have any way to prevent him fucking him over. Also I dont think we know the full capabilities of Walt until we see what the Grey Matter situation was. Walt theorically can still be a noble prize winning level chemist who skipped out over his insecurities, Gale was just a typical high level chemist like any other chemistry grad that can produce meth/ecstasy etc. Gus was always have the best/optimum outcome.

Its hinted at, but not explained fully.

Gus sets up scholarships for chemistry students/bio chem/ etc. He then cultivates each one of these, getting into a friendly relationship with them. Once he finds the one with the right mindset (Gale was libertarian, he didn’t want to use the product but had no moral dilemma about providing it to those who do), he slowly brings him into the fold.

I’m sure he had plenty of other scholarships set up that didn’t pan out the way he’d hoped, but he got his Gale, and he was happy.

So I went and watched those scenes again, and it’s actually interesting, Walt and Gale only had 1 cook that was shown, in the episode Sunset. Everything there is peachy, they’re happy. They’re playing chess, talking walt whitman, enjoying talking about the chemistry. There is not an ounce of animosity.

Then Jesse gets his ass beat. Then he says hes gonna keep cooking, Walt talks with Saul, and at this point, Walt knows he has to bring Jesse in. This is episode One Minute.

After that, then the little walt being annoyed with Gale starts up (quip about the sandals, trying to catch him on a mistake). Then he sets gale up to fail. He tells him the wrong temperature to cook it at. Look at his face, he’s definitely acting the whole thing. The way he goes over the top with anger. The way, after chewing out gale, he gives a little look to the side like he knows this is wrong. He forces an entire batch to be ruined, so he could pin it on gale. He then calls gus, and gets Gale fired.

There’s no way he’s really mad at gale. He’s just doing it to protect Hank and himself, and biting the bullet and bringing Jesse in.

All I’ve done is reaffirmed my beliefs, there’s like no way to view this series of events as Walt wanting to keep somebody next to him that he could control, nor was he happy to lose gale. Even the look when Walt sees him again In the season finale (full measures), shows that he actually likes Gale in my book, and is somewhat relieved to have him back. The Jesse move was a manipulation, nothing more.

Gale was a weirdo not just because he was a vegetarian, but because he was some super libertarian hippie nerd who thought making pure crystal meth was a noble endeavor. He’s the kind of dude who travels to Comic Con by himself.

And Walt was ‘just acting’ like he was annoyed with Gale like he was ‘just acting’ during his vitriolic phone call to Skylar this season. I don’t think Walt is a very good actor, just good at compartmentalizing. Either way I won’t hammer the point anymore because I don’t see anyone here rewatching those episodes and not just confirming their previous suspicions. I think it’s a testament to Cranston’s performance that his motivations warrant such discussion.

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I hate when I make impulse buys, but I saw this at the mall and had to cop it instantly.

It just occurred to me how this series is able to take something that sounds absolutely ridiculous on paper and make it awesome on screen. That scene at the end of Crawl Space, I realize, must have looked idiotic on the pages (with the laughter). But damned if Cranston didn’t deliver. Same with the call in Ozymandias, with Walt throwing every abuser cliche in the book at Skyler trying to make himself the prime target. He’s able to sell it though.

Meanwhile, on Dexter…