The difference is that every boxer will start demanding USADA all the time making NSAC not needed. Unless they change this, Mayweather should not be dictating this. Not to mention Pacman hasn’t even shown any signs of steroid use & has been clean for every testing.
Either way, he needed this fight more then Pacman…
After Pacman destroys Malignaggi, depending on if he wins the lawsuit, i see Mayweather begging for a fight. Pacman’s team called his bluff & now they are both out of 40million & fans lose again…
The USADA testing is very expensive, so its not practical for everyone to demand besides the Top Tier P4P guys or guys otherwise that get tons of fight money.
Even if guys suddenly started demanding blood testing whether it be from USADA or some other agency, I don’t see how that’s necessarily a bad thing(Not saying that you are saying its a bad thing). Boxing is long overdue for this kind of testing to become more of a norm. There have been guys before that were juicing, but slipped by because the NSAC testing is so inadequate. As I mentioned earlier, no one would have known Mosley was on EPO if he himself hadn’t come out and admit that he was on it.
Not never having failed a drug test in boxing in this era is not a huge accomplishment. Victor Conte just came out and said that NSAC testing was useless. Even one of the heads of NSAC herself said that the testing they do now wasn’t good.
Here’s a link. Mayweather and Golden Boy are willing to use a different mutually agreed upon testing agency. They even offered to bring in a mediator, John McCain to settle the differences between the two sides. Arum even thought that would be a good idea, but Manny disagreed. All the issues with testing have been denied on the grounds that its “Random”.
Pacquiao feels giving blood within 30 days of the fight will make him weaker. Yet he gave a whole tube of blood Episode 3 of 24/7 when he fought Hatton, 2 weeks before that fight. Gimme a break.
Well yeah i agree that they should have more stricter drug testing but there is some kind of protocol & ways to do it. You dont accuse a guy of juicing then requesting something that has never happen in the professional sport of boxing. They disrespected Pacquiao, & until they do change it, i dont see why Pacquiao has to go through this…
Also i think that Pacquiao camp is willing to do the testing 30 days before, 5days before, & testing right after the fight. He’s willing to do unlimited urine test throughout…He doesn’t want to to do “random” testing cuz they can test you 7 days straight right before the fight, that’s what random is.
Here is an article of an Olympic runner Asafa Powell saying how the blood test making him feel weak…
*“Two days ago, I got pretty upset because since I’ve been here they’ve tested me four times,” he said.
"They take blood. I’m saying that they’re taking so much blood, we’re going to be very weak before the final of the 100m.
“I’m almost sure I might be tested tomorrow. I don’t know about anyone else but they’re really doing it in my case and with my team-mates Michael Frater and Usain Bolt.”*
Roach said something about the Morales fight where he had to give blood a few days before the fight cuz the blood sample was loss. Pacquiao was weak & seem off…I dont know if that’s true or not but ever since then Pacquiao hasn’t loss a fight. I think its bullshit but if that’s what his fighter would like to use that as motivation/excuse then yeah i dont see a problem with that.
The funny thing is Mayweather has the clear advantage of this fight, he should be able to beat/counter punch Pacman w/ or without steroids. I think that when he saw the fight w/ Cotto, something made his camp scared.
honestly asafa powell is a dumb jock. all of that feeling weak shit is mental. last time i checked being a weak minded headcase wasn’t an excuse for people to bend over backwards for you.
also non-random drug testing is stupid/useless, let’s stop pretending that it’s comparable to random tests.
and the longer this draws out the more full of shit pacquiao looks. first he was a afraid of needles/giving blood, despite having mad tats. then he didn’t want to give blood within 30 days of the fight and was so incensed that of being asked to do so that he was gonna file a lawsuit against PBF and golden boy…now he wants to fight malignaggi (who also has publicly said he thinks pac is juicing) AND we find out that he’s previously given blood 14 days before the fight, and since it was part of his “routine” med exam he’s prob done it many times before.
someone should give him some tips on how people that aren’t blatantly hiding something usually behave bcuz freddy roach’s harlem shaking ass sure as hell ain’t helping out in that regard.
pfft… that’s the best you can do? counting in a lightweight when mayweather was a welterweight then you coming in overweight on the fight. good luck to ya!
you know what? i’m done with this shit. i’m blaming both pac and pbf for not making this fight. but you know what, pac ain’t need this fight like mayweather does. let’s face it mayweather fans. don’t you ever wonder why mayweather ain’t even considering to fight the winner of mosley vs berto. he ain’t fight williams too, [don’t come up with that he’s two big for a ww, 'cause if he can weigh in at 147, he’s good to fight. that’s why it’s called a WEIGHT divinsion not a HEIGHT division.] and why not cotto even? i’m pretty sure cotto is better than matthew hatton. and the answer ladies and gentlemen, is because HE CAN’T FACE THE FACT OF THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING. sometimes i wish he would have gotten a 1 lose in his record during his 1st fight with jlc. imo, it would have been good for him in the long run. he would have come back with that lose with a different perspective and much need reality check. he would have been fighting the best of best out there and not be worrying about being undefeated. and he would have, with his skills, toyed with every opponent. and what we got instead is a mayweather who’s claiming to be the greatest fighter ever and not even an inch of proving it. go back to f**king retirement you p*ssy!
and if pac fight paulie, im’ma lose some respect for him too. foreman is understanble for the 8th weight division title but paulie, f**k you bob arum. if pac vs mayweather will not materialize, i want the next best thing, pac vs [winner of mosley vs berto].
yeah?! like you can relate? may i ask, are you a high precision athlete as well? if no, stfu!
what would be the point in fighting cotto after he just lost 2 out of 3 fights when it’s already been shown that clowns like yourself took issue with him fighting zudah even after he fought the guy that beat zudah (baldomir). and if old ass mosley manages to beat berto then that fight probably will come off. berto/mayweather would be an interseting fight.
it’s amusing though how easily you take the pac/arum bait though. why would mayweather be talking about fights he COULD be making instead of teh pac fight while he’s trying to make the pac fight happen? the only reason arum is talking about malignaggi, foreman or anyone else is bcuz manny is bailing on fighting mayweather.
fighting forman would be nice for the record books, but ultimately it’s not saying anything just like it wouldn’t say anything if PBF had fought cory spinks @ super welterweight. and for all of the shit you talk, why won’t pac fight p. williams? honestly i think williams is done with WW at this point, but if you’re gonna bring him up then you’re pretty much begging the question.
i’m not rationalizing anything, outside of pbf/pac i couldn’t really care less who either of them fight. it’s people like you that are gonna bitch and moan about whatever opponent is next for pbf and slurp whoever pac fights.
if THE FIGHT doesn’t go down, i’ll be happy with pavlik/williams and berto/mosley and a possible JMM/hatton…well not really bcuz hatton is done, but the point stands.
exactly the reason why you are a fan of mayweather and i am a fan of boxing. of course, i care about who are they fighting because i want the best to fight the best and eliminate each other out so we would know who is really the best, don’t you? you don’t that’s why you’re only a mayweather fan.
do you see me slurping about the possibility of pac v milagnaggi? no, fuck that. mayweather’s been a long time and welterweight and look who has he fought? now, if pac spends that amount of time with the same amount of activity, i’ll definitely criticize him. and f**k him too if that pac vs milagnaggi goes down. i’m done with that boxing politics b.s. that’s also why i love mma 'cause they force their fighters to prove that their the best.
^Yeah, that’s why Brock Lesnar got a heavyweight shot as soon as he joined the ufc(wasn’t it like 2-3 fights?) You’re fucking kidding yourself if you don’t think there’s shady business in MMA, have you also forgotten the Pride Yakuza scandal? How about fighters being cut if their styles aren’t crowd pleasing?(coughThalesLeitescough)
I’m not saying MMA is terrible, but don’t act like it stands so far above boxing without its own bullshit and politics.
Die hard mma fans act like mma is without any flaws. The UFC makes a fortune every event and they pay their fighters laughable fees. Chris Brennan went on record making less than than 5 grand a couple years back to fight for them. Train 3 months to make 5 grand for the biggest mma event in the world? Because of MMA ever average to above average college wrestler wants to be a fighter so we end up main events with guys that barely know how to throw a decent punch or kick. We get this ground and pound mess.
i didn’t say mma has no b.s. politics, they do. what i’m saying is that they make the best fighter with the best possible contenter. yeah, brock’s climb into the heavyweight ladder was shady but he proved it, right? he f%%kng owned frank mir and he would have owned every other contender if he didn’t went down sick. and dana not getting fedor is also one of the b.s. at ufc. [fedor vs brock would have been sick even though i think fedor would own brock, imo if brock would land a significant punch, it would be interesting.]
thales leites got cut 'cause aside from being boring, he lost his last 2 fights even though i agree it’s not a complete valid reason to cut a fighter. he even had a chance to win the middleweight belt 'cause he was the number one contender. atleast you don’t see the ufc denying his right to fight the champion even though he was a boring fighter. hey, machida was one of the most boring fighter at ufc, did you see him get cut? no, because he wins fights. if i were thales, im’ma go at strikeforce or other mma outfits out there and prove that he can be the best fighter at middleweight and make dana white regret what he did. stop crying and move on.
He listed several other fights he’s interested in.
The people who are saying ‘‘Boxing is dead if the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight doesn’t happen’’ are the people who don’t care about the sport. Plenty is happening in the sport right now, the jr Welterweight division is lighting up, there’s the super middleweight tournament and the fights he listed.
I will say that Pacquiao is being the bitch in this situation, he can’t even get his excuses straight.
then there’s this also might be same as above but manny is ok with taking blood just once prior to the fight, but not multiple times because that will weaken him. Just read the article.
I dont get it…Pacman’s camp said they willing to do 5 days before the fight…They just dont want the Olympic Testing cuz its completely random. The day you sign the contract is the day they can start testing…The fighter will have no say in it, for example if they decide to take 5 blood test 5 days before the fight they can…When they do blood testing they do it anywhere from your home or at the gym which isn’t exactly sanitary. Sometimes needles tend to bruise which in turn can effect training or worse have bruising close to the fight. Mentally it can effect people too…
What i dont get is why now? Mayweather doesn’t even think Pacman is in his league, so why so worried about testing? Pacman hasn’t even shown any signs of steroids to even accuse him of this…