Bold canceling...harder than it looks...or easier?

Husteen · 2012-07-18T00:04:05.000Z

stinger BC reverb
and
cold shower -> stinger BC grapple (very delayed)

What combo do you use after the grapple?

Tha1337ness · 2012-07-18T03:21:40.000Z

stinger BC reverb
and
cold shower -> stinger BC grapple (very delayed)

ok dude thanks. the reverb sounds excellent since that new “flying ve” tech came out.

Tha1337ness · 2012-07-18T04:12:53.000Z

What combo do you use after the grapple?

I think reverb xx fireworks xx million dollars is your only option really if you don’t go into DT.

Husteen · 2012-07-18T04:16:36.000Z

I think reverb xx fireworks xx million dollars is your only option really if you don’t go into DT.

I only ask because I can usually get st. :s: after for a little baby combo. I figured there’d be an optimized version of that.

dori · 2012-07-19T02:43:54.000Z

What combo do you use after the grapple?

if its at the end of a combo, you usually use the grapple to reset them since grapple forces a forward tech roll.

either that or you can DT and dhc right after for some old school dhc glitch stuff

MastaSW · 2012-07-25T22:27:27.000Z

Best advice I can offer was I usually do :f:+:h:, :f:, :d:, :df:, :s:+:l:, immediately
I’ve been doing this for a month now and it comes out nearly every time. Sometimes BC’s just never come out
I wish I knew it was this easy when learning Vanilla, jesus, I’d be a lot better now.

Whoa,never ever ever ever thought of this…this is a definite must try

Iron_fighter · 2012-10-12T06:23:23.000Z

I’m a pad Dante player. Bold cancelling took me ages to learn. Maybe two or three weeks with about half an hour of practice each day. But I did it. I can bold cancel now. And it’s so satisfying to do it. If you’re trying to bc on a pad, I would recommend using R1 as your attack button. I tried to use L1 at first, but I switched to R1 because pressing two buttons simultaneously with two fingers on the same hand is much easier than with two fingers on separate hands. I have R1 set to M+H, just for efficiency. Why have separate buttons for supers/dashing/pushblocking and for bold cancelling when you can use the same one?

i can Bc all day in training mode just about but when it comes to maches the pressure is on and i end up mashing forward H. really bad habbit i cant stand but i can BC teleport wit no problem…hell i play online alot and in the corner i even BC into sky dance to go for a mix up but for the life of me GOD for the life of me the volcano is really annoyin due to the fact that i have such a short time to BC i am a real ancy player and i react on impulse so fast. thats y i like your post because hitting 2 buttons is just 2 much ill consider switching my controller and have it do the 2 attk buttons for me :}

JediLink · 2012-10-13T13:31:56.000Z

i can Bc all day in training mode just about but when it comes to maches the pressure is on and i end up mashing forward H. really bad habbit i cant stand but i can BC teleport wit no problem…hell i play online alot and in the corner i even BC into sky dance to go for a mix up but for the life of me GOD for the life of me the volcano is really annoyin due to the fact that i have such a short time to BC i am a real ancy player and i react on impulse so fast. thats y i like your post because hitting 2 buttons is just 2 much ill consider switching my controller and have it do the 2 attk buttons for me :}

I don’t think you can actually set a macro to ATK + S. You can for all attacks + S (for X-Factor) but not for just ATK + S.

Chargi · 2012-10-14T23:02:08.000Z

Don’t do shortcuts, its not reliable and the more you do it, more failures will occur.

You can do Stinger, immediately press Bold Cancel and then do your input fast.
Stinger+BC is like a PLink in SF4, don’t wait for the Stinger to hit, simply input BC immediately.

cbashchin · 2012-11-07T06:03:01.000Z

I recently bought and arcade stick, and all of my prior muscle memory no longer applies. Well, learning Bold Cancelling is easier the second time, right? Right? :’(

Lol, yes! This! I did the same thing! To learn I decided to learn dAnte, ironman, felisha. So many tears, but it will be worth it. Going o tournies and not having to worry about what system they are using. Buttons on sticks make doing things like bold cancel, charging buster, ect easier, but joystick motions are what is giving me the most trouble. I now put inputs on in training mode and it really helps a lot. I am able to bc 30% of the time and getting better, but I am open to try the plink method, as plinking will allow me to concentrate on joystick motion and button press one at a time. Idk, whAtever works

cbashchin · 2012-11-07T09:37:47.000Z

Still practicing.

Bold cancel IMMEDIATELY after Stinger. It’s exactly like kara-throwing.
Right after you BC, do whatever move you want.
It’s really not as difficult as it seems. As everyone says, once you get used to the timing, you get the hang of it.

I can’t stress it enough, though. BC as SOON as you Stinger. If your move isn’t coming out, it’s probably because you’re not BCing immediately, at least that’s the case for me.

Ok I took the advise you and others said and treated the bc after stinger like a plink and that made a world of difference! I’m up to 80% and the 20% are mostly due to getting crystal instead of raw bc jump. Doing bc immediately after stinger gives you a lot of time. Now to work on bc air trick… Heard its a lot harder, but we’ll see

evilweevle · 2012-11-11T08:42:24.000Z

Ok I took the advise you and others said and treated the bc after stinger like a plink and that made a world of difference! I’m up to 80% and the 20% are mostly due to getting crystal instead of raw bc jump. Doing bc immediately after stinger gives you a lot of time. Now to work on bc air trick… Heard its a lot harder, but we’ll see

bold cancel air trick is surprisingly easy as long as you dont totally mash the shit out of the buttons when you do it.

start by figuring the speed you need to press 3 + :h: to get 2 gunshots (2 button presses is all it takes)

then start adding the stinger with 6 + a single press of :h: DO NOT MASH IT.

now you have all that time to do 2 + :s:+:a: , 2 + :s: in order to get the teleport.

its so easy doing it this way a lot of the time i do it too fast which can fuck you up since dante will literally teleport before the opp gets to the wall.

BMsirhc1313 · 2012-11-26T22:19:35.000Z

Shortcut makes bold cancelling easier for me. If plinking doesnt do it for you then give this a try

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cbashchin · 2012-11-28T14:50:56.000Z

bold cancel air trick is surprisingly easy as long as you dont totally mash the shit out of the buttons when you do it.

start by figuring the speed you need to press 3 + :h: to get 2 gunshots (2 button presses is all it takes)

then start adding the stinger with 6 + a single press of :h: DO NOT MASH IT.

now you have all that time to do 2 + :s:+:a: , 2 + :s: in order to get the teleport.

its so easy doing it this way a lot of the time i do it too fast which can fuck you up since dante will literally teleport before the opp gets to the wall.

Wow that definitely helped. First of all the best advise on doing Dante tech is not to mash! Learn the timing and do crisp buttons and motions. If you mash you will not be consistent. With that said I am pretty good at BC to anything, but was having trouble with with that exact part because you had to mash and It caused me to be inconsistent, but knowing how many H’s to input b4 stinger greatly helps and eliminates mashing.
The steps I took in mastering bold cancel was raw BC to volcano, then reverb, then teleport. Once I was consistently BC into anything I wanted, then I practiced adding MH before stinger. At first I mashed and failed, then I started to relax and treat stinger xx BC xx whatever, like one crisp move. This caused my brain to slow down and approach it like 1,2,3 instead of feeling overwhelmed with mashing 5 inputs as fast as I can. Once I was compfortable and consistent, I put the computer on random blocking and practiced using MH to confirm the hit b4 I input stinger. I did this so that if they blocked I could BC reverb shock or teleport, and if I hit confirmed then I BC into volcano xx Bnb. With this step I’m starting to feel like a Dante player.

Tsjanith · 2014-06-04T00:58:46.000Z

Bold canceling into almost anything is easy, yes. Bold cancel teleport however, utterly impossible

_Insert_Name_Here · 2014-06-04T02:10:59.000Z

Tsjanith:

Bold canceling into almost anything is easy, yes. Bold cancel teleport however, utterly impossible

Could you try to get a video of you trying up? I don’t think anyone could give you more advice at this point, and I think doing that would be more constructive than going to a 2-year-old thread and complaining about something that is very doable.

Tsjanith · 2014-06-04T03:28:56.000Z

I don’t have a program that records game footage and I doubt that would be of any use anyway. The inputs are exactly as they should be on any tutorial thread or video, Dante just doesn’t comply.

Mainly the reason for resurrecting this old thread is venting purposes exclusively… I absolutely adore UMvC3, almost to an unhealthy extent, and being inherently incapable of what seems to be an extraordinarily useful (and fun) move with my favorite character puts a sizable dent in the enjoyment I derive out of what may very well be my favorite game of all time. And every time I see someone say something like “it’s stupidly easy” or “it took me 5 minutes to permanently master” increases the size of said dent.

As I said, stinger BC volcano etc took me virtually no practice at all to get down. But over 1/3 of a year trying to bc teleport to no avail really puts a damper on spirits. I really have tried every suggestion and every method extensively…

_Insert_Name_Here · 2014-06-05T02:02:15.000Z

Tsjanith:

I don’t have a program that records game footage and I doubt that would be of any use anyway.

It would because then people could help you with the input timing better. Cellphone cam works fine, if you have one.

2KTep · 2014-06-10T08:42:25.000Z

ipod 4 works as well unless you don’t have an app that called a “Camera”. Posting a video helps people understand and detect what type of execution problems that you have. The video easily explains 10x better than writing a sentence about it.

To Tsjanith = If you don’t have someone to record for you. Then you need at least 3 things

1.) Recording Equipment = ipod, iphone, cellphone

2.) A stool

3.) 2 DVD cover(Think PS3 Boxart) or a book cover

Now you should place 2 DVD covers on the stool, where you can place the ipod, iphone or cellphone on it so that the DVD Cover helps makes the ipod don’t fall and stay still . Also make sure that the bottom part doesn’t block the camera. I am so terrible at explaining in words btw.

Tsjanith

When you doing a bold cancel into teleport your input should look like this below. It works for both :l: or . So pick one that works best for you.

:d: or :l: :d: :s:


In the input above, after a stinger press :d: :m: + :s: at the same time, then immediately press :d: :s: after
I don't like using :h: for bold cancel because I want to minimize a lot of button presses as possible (pressing :h: again after Stinger)

Note =  *If it doesn't help, then changing your controller setting would make things a lot easier. Just because you hear people saying that its easy doesn't mean that it's true. It their opinion. It wasn't easy for me to learn how to bold cancel into teleport at first.*

vgundam25 · 2014-08-22T02:00:24.000Z

To be honest you have a long time to actually do this. Just buffer 6s+attk, then press 6s. Its pretty simple. Just input it clean and it will come out everytime