Well yeah, but whether or not the game actually IS 30% faster has no bearing or not on whether people say that it “feels” 30% faster to them. If it feels 30% faster to them and they say so, then it feels 30% faster to them regardless of whether or not it actually is. I kind of think that would be a silly thing and something too small to be worth causing the trouble of them lying about it and just making up their thoughts just because.
I’m not accusing anyone of lying. -_-
It’s just not a useful number, because it’s someone’s made up number about a “percentage” of how something “feels” faster.
By hitstop do you mean hitstun?
Alright, thanks. That’s 9 dollars I can keep for something else. lol
EDIT: The game came in the mail today so I’ll just start playing now. xD Hopefully by next week I’ll be able to get broadband set up and be on my way, but I may as well practice now (I prefer practicing against online opponents.)
Hitstop is the number of frames where the screen freezes when you connect with the opponent, allowing you more time to confirm. Heavier attacks usually have more hitstop. CP lowered the global hitstop from ~12F average to ~10F average, which isn’t a huge difference, but it does have a psychological effect on the speed of play.
After the hitstop ends, hitstun begins, and stuns the opponent for X frames allowing you to combo within that time.
Example: Hit with 5B > 11F of hitstop/screen freeze > 17F of hitstun (28F total confirm time)
Basically what Celerity said. No, Hitstop is not the same as Hitstun. Hitstun is what determines whether something combos. Hitstop is the ‘freeze’ that happens when a hit makes contact. It has two functions: #1) It makes moves feel ‘weighty’ - a game with zero hitstop looks/feels weird because hits don’t seem to have any ‘impact’ behind them and #2) It gives you time to realize your move has hit press a different button than you would have if you didn’t realize it.
So basically the opposite of SSB Melee I figured it was something like that. I’d just never seen the word before. Been playing games for 20 years but I’ve only been on game forums for seven days. xD
Wow, I haven’t been on this thread for a very long time. So, did I miss anything big news about this game and it’s update version?
I don’t think so. As far as I know, the only changes are the addition of Lambchops and Celica.
Well, there’s apparently going to be a complete rebalance, but no one has the faintest idea what is being changed, so basically go back to sleep until October 9th or so and you won’t miss anything except people whining about information they don’t have.
There are already a lot of notes from the loketest, so I wouldn’t say people have “no idea” about what’s being changed. Pretty big nerfs to Azrael’s Growler Field and Kokonoe’s everything, big buffs to Izayoi by giving her a real DP, I haven’t kept up with all of the news though.
To be fair the only notes came from an early loketest, and those have a tendency to have a lot of the changes from those either removed, or re-done entirely.
Who in here is getting on Persona, though? Where’s the thread for that?
Yeah, that’s exactly the problem Celerity - that crap was all from the very first Loketest, and no one knows what, if any of it, is going to be in the final game. Okay, fine, Overdrive Raid is going to be in in SOME way, we know that, but anything anyone tells you about balance changes from the loktest have at best, only slightly better chance of actually being in the final product than changes that they just made up.
I’m getting in on it. I preordered the game over a month ago, so I’m getting Ultimax a couple of days after it drops for sure.
I’m copping it too, but you probably already knew that Phantom.
Do we not already have a thread for it? If not I’d be willing to go ahead and start it up.
There’s a P4A section on SRK, but it’s basically dead. I started a Q&A thread for Ultimax and I think two people have posted in it so far.
We’ll probably have to wait until the US version actually drops for people to post in it…and then probably complain for the first 2 weeks that people who imported are kicking our asses.
It really needs a thread like this one. I know there are people here that play or are interested in playing it, so why not?
There is a P4A general thread, it’s stickied in that forum, just nobody posts there lol. Maybe it’ll revive in a few days.
I went ahead and made a new thread for Ultimax. That other thread hasn’t seen a post in over a year, and I doubt anyone’s updating the OP.