What’s the problem with Bang? I haven’t been following him closely, but the handful of matches I saw with him, he seemed fine?
(It always confuses me when people say “Oh, those <relatively minor changes> totally ruined <insert character here>! He’s just not fun to play anymore.”)
Some players liked specifically gunning for FRKZ, which they can’t do anymore because it’s now an Overdrive, and its replacement teleport grab honestly isn’t a good replacement for it.
They didn’t forget about Makoto, she got the nerfs she so desperately deserved.
As a character he’s strong. On par with EX Bang easily. His midscreen damage is excellent and Y’know. It’s Bang.
It’s just in CP they really changed how he plays. In Extend I was a huge fan of FRKZ, against everyone that didn’t have a DP my goal was to instantly get 4 seals and make them burst during that time. I spent a long while learning how to j.4C loop to get 7K from an instant overhead crossup j.C. Felt good.
In CP, they not only removed FRKZ and turned it into an Overdrive, they reworked the moves during FRKZ to turn it into a glorified Blood Kain with music, it serves as a combo extension and not a “Do or Die” YOLO Install as it was.
His pressure game took a direct hit with the TK Nail change. His command grab RC combos are seriously not worth the meter anymore, they removed his hilarious 3C FC Combo in this patch, his Parachute special is still garbage etc etc rant rant rant.
It’s just hard to explain. Everything that made him fun and exciting in CS2 > Extend somehow got toned down. He’s no longer an all out offensive rushdown god. He’s a “Sit and wait your turn” Cookie cutter rushdown character with 2 Airdashes.
Thus I jumped ship to Azrael and Rachel and never truly looked back.
Double post.
Welp, I guess you’re doomed, because they’re not going to give you back the ability to combo into FRKZ for 7k. I think you know why.
I have a hard time viewing anything that works like FRKZ did as a “Do or Die YOLO”. More like a “LOL, sucks to be your opponent.”
Dreize needs to teach me how to Blazblue.
My Noel is still shit. :sad:
I’ll gladly play you anytime you’d like if you just want to get some games in/Valkenhayn match-up experience, but if you want to learn more about your character talking to/playing LiveWire is your best bet since he mains Noel as well.
Sorry for going in hard with Valkenhayn by the way, my CP subs are still a work in progress.
LiveWire needs to hook me up then. I need that pressure tech.
It’s no worries, I just knew that once I got hit I was pretty much saying goodbye to at least a 4th of my health, lol.
Hey.
I heard you know how to Noel.
Wanna help a brother out? Lol.
Yeah, I can help you with like some properties and things, and I also have a compiled like combo and notation bit document I can always pass along. However, with that being said, I still have a bunch of bad habits even with playing her since Calamity Trigger, but I can certainly tell you WHY they’re a bad idea (such as wakeup 4D, or getting carried away with Thor). I also have a mic, so I can pass stuff along that way. Plus, since I’m trying to get in shape for a tournament next weekend going over stuff like that couldn’t hurt. I’ll send you a friend request later on tonight when I’m on.
Looks like I’ll be moving down a few tiers with this new patch.
I admit I still feel like trying to learn Jin (since I sort of ‘get’ how he works) or possibly Ragna. I keep wanting to learn Mu, but I can never convince myself to stick with it.
I hear that Noel’s muzzle filter 5C combos still do 5k before they’re even finished.
You wanna play a few matches sometime today?
That’s actually only on Counter-Hit. The typical optimal 5C CH combo does 5017 damage on my last check.
And sure I’m up for some games later tonight, Martian. I’m finishing up some stuff, but I’ll send an invite or whatnot when I’m done.
Yeah I know, just saying though that if it still hits 5k, then hopefully it won’t be too too bad. Here’s also to hoping Jin still dies if he gets hit by 6B.
Today I learned Noel doesn’t have a 4B.
The more you know.
MOST characters don’t have anything on ‘4’. I think the only ones that do are Lambda/Nu (4B), Hakumen (4C), and Litchi(4B). Though I probably missed one somewhere. ‘4’ is not a common input modifier in BB for reasons which are likely to be fairly apparent upon consideration.
Noel however DOES have a 4D, d.4D (which is just 4D during drive) and a j.4D, but yeah, she doesn’t have a 4 with normals.