Bill Nye VS Ken Ham: Science Vs Creationism

A creationist actually proposed the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyGtE-l0YfY

All of you should start playing this music right now because it is the musical interpretation signaling that i am making my way here.

Get ready, motherfuckers.

STFU

you’re retired. You remind me of a priest. Always promising to stop and you move away, only to come back and molest the masses.

What sort of loving God would create an entire continent devoted to killing you?

BTW, on my previous point. There really should be more theology classes. Both from a historic importance and modern importance. Religion whether we like it or not is part of the worlds society and should be attempted to be understood. Also, some of the old religions had really awesome stories that I think could potentially interest kids.

One of my favorite things to do in the Persona series is simply to read the little blurbs about the demons you find. I love the descriptions of their origins and such.

Here is one from wikipedia:

How awesome is that?

STFU. Yes i am retired, which is why i am trying to force the interest of dominating and break the faces of the bitches here, a bit of me wants to when i skim the stupid replies but the time it takes just gives me the decrease of interest. I could easily deck the head off that IamYogi guy you are arguing with and leave his blood as a demonstration to the rest of you 1-5 year olds of how religion threads went down when the Undefeated Religion Thread Champion of SRK came in.

I have promised only once of my retirement and i keep that promise, but don’t you see how many people were calling me to come in here. I just did a search in the search bar and saw that many have been calling for me, some have been fighting other posters for copying me, or even going as low as pretending to be alts. The fact of the matter is, I come back not on my own accord but because of the cries of posters wanting threads to be saved.

Look at you and this thread. A religion thread containg a debate of a fraud scientist who’s only known for making kid science shows that aired after Mr Rogers and only contribution to science was gving 3rd graders ideas on what science projects to make vs some unknown christian Ken Sam-i-am (whatever his name is) that is almost over a day old yet only 3 pages. When i did religion threads it went to 6 pages in it’s first 5 minutes, and 10+ pages the next day. If i went into a boring-ignored religion thread like this that only got 3 pages after a day, it would sky rocket to 3 more pages after 5 min. So you should be thankful, to me and the people who called for me, that your thread has the chance of not going to page 2 of the GD by tonight.

Atheism is really an emotional based line of reasoning. It’s “science” is ultimately assisted with emotional points of view, and nothing academic. It’s a fake science, because there are no observable facts for them and they don’t even have reputable scientists in their history. The best they can do is hug around non christian scientists (who still believed in a higher power) like Einstein and Darwin, regardless of those two not fully (or at all) accepting of atheism. The only way their “science” can win is if they got their answer by just sitting in their asses and witnessing Order, language and life just poofing out of the air randomly. It gets tiring to argue with atheists because the entire argument just has them replying “I don’t know… i don’t know…” “you’re wrong”… “i don’t need to answer because i’m going to bitch out and pretend i was never making claims”.

I wonder how many debates Ken Ham would go to if every other religion made their own Creationism to be taught in other countries.

Everyone always becomes a parrot in these discussions. The arguments intellectuals have about the subject are for many reasons, some shallow and some that has some.actual political importance

What would be a more intelligent approach for you guys who are couch philosophers is to discover the agenda of each intellectual who takes part in each debate

Everything else in this thread is toilet food

Did this thread get closed?
EDIT: woops i guess not, lol

Anyway why would you try to argue with evolutionist philosophy?


Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xedc7pLWyRI

No, that was ‘magic’ my friend. :slight_smile:

~K.

The stupidity in this thread is astounding.

Creationism is just as good a theory as anything. Science can never answer the question of where everything originated anyway. That is the gap in science.

If you actually understand high level science, especially pretty much what Einstein’s theories were, you should then understand how most of what you have in religion isn’t actually contradicted. Also take into account a lot of the religious stuff is metaphorical or people just don’t understand what it means. Most of it is also through translation because people don’t know the languages a thousand or thousands of years ago.

Science also is only at the state human advancement has gotten to. Quantum Physics pretty much disproved everything we knew beforehand, and that has happened time and time again. I’m actually really excited about seeing what the next big advancement in science will be, I’m completely certain we still don’t have a clue about anything. We still can’t reconcile quantum theory with general relativity despite being pretty sure both are right. We’re missing some major things. But then it probably doesn’t even matter, how does it affect you what other people think? The more I studied relativity the more sure I was about religion.

Magic, religion, and magnets, is there really a difference?

From Ham 's opening statement, what did the lot of you make of his dichotomy of science separating observational science to “historic”?

Seemed to me to be the important cog in his thinking as it was the basis for asserting the infinite fallibility of scientific claims of the past…

Just a heads up for everyone:

This guy is a lawyer, and desired at one point to be a scientist.

Let that sit for a second.

No, it’s nonsense, period. This isn’t subjective.

That’s not me saying religious rituals that do no harm are a bad thing. It’s me saying that when you teach a kid something you claim as fact, but is backed by nothing, you’re warping that kid.

the whole point of faith is to believe in something you may or may not be able to prove. Beliving and having faith in something will not warp a persons mind. it’s when you take it to the extreme that its detrimental…this goes for the science as well. When people said eugenics is a good idea, or when scientists said black people couldn’t be intelligent compared to whites. that was taking it to the extreme…they claimed to have evidence to back it. Everything can be bad when taken to the limit.

Seriously what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Don’t bother intimating that eugenics and racism come under the remit of science ‘going too far.’ The scientific proof was never there for these intellectually bankrupt and intentionally misleading ideas which were primarily tools for promoting the dehumanization of entire groups of people.

Faith in something for which there exists zero evidence is a waste of time. Time is precious, especially time spent in youth. The time your child spends on religion is not given willingly but snatched away by your hands when they are most vulnerable. You presumably do it because it was done to you, as is the cycle of abuse.

There’s also the stone cold fact that, should everyone take to your (baseless) doctrine, they will be satisfied with their ill-conceived notions of the origin of the universe, meaning the real answer to the question of the ages will remain forever unanswered. However, for a lot of people, ignorance is not bliss.