Balrog Thread

[SWAG_KING_YOLO]

Mained Rog in Sfiv when the game just came out, haven’t touched him since SSFIV tough so here’s some questions.

Why can’t Balrog deal with Demon Flips?
cr.HP gets stuffed 9/10 times or it trades, but if you trade you can atleast follow up.

Headbutt invincibility was never in this game?

Why is there no armor on his EX overhead?

What’s his go to mixup?

[Neozenha]

Rog is freaking hard to use in this, screw him lol

[SamuelVimes]

Balrog really is not too combo heavy, so a thread for them is not too important but I can try to make it if I have time. What I’d love is if some more experienced players can tell me the pressure strings they use with Balrog especially those involving dash punches because right now I have no offense with him just purely reactionary. I’d put those in the combo thread too.

1. Why can’t Balrog deal with Demon Flips?
   cr.HP gets stuffed 9/10 times or it trades, but if you trade you can atleast follow up.

2. Headbutt invincibility was never in this game?

3. Why is there no armor on his EX overhead?

4. What’s his go to mixup?
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1 and 2 are pretty linked his AAir is not as strong as it should be. Is annoying because they gave the Tekken cast huge buffs in that department but the SF members that did not already have great reversals got nothing.

3. Really annoying since it makes it hard to stick in and any great player can react to it with a guard or even a throw for chrissake. I think what they tried to do is add a lot more risk in favor of a lot more reward. The regular versions grant a huge +10 on hit (enough to link big moves and even cross assault/Pandora combo) and the ex on crouchers generates a unique state to save juggle points. It is one of the most rewarding mids in the game I think, but it’d be nice if it could work more.

4. Unfortunately with the state of his overhead and lengthy cadc he doesn’t have too much. In general it is mixing up low straight and swing blows, particularly on oki. The other option he has is that his throws are incredibly strong, and are easy to land because of how threatening it can be to mash on him. Hitting them gives you enough time to raw tag safely or even build a CH to give to fst.HP, if you know they will roll to try and get you/stay in close (and they still get to apply pressure on your tag), then just get a free throw and reset the situation. If they get up normally you either have space to continue footsie dominance or can use your dash punches to apply pressure on their wakeup from a range most characters cannot. So yeah, low straight/swing blow in conjunction with throws.

[SWAG_KING_YOLO]

Street Fighter x Tekken v2013 Frame Data (including DLC characters)

It’s his frame data, I didn’t check all of it but it seems pretty accurate. Notice how all of his special moves are - frames?

The only one that isn’t minus a whole lot is his dash upper, which whiffs on crouching opponents. Cry every time.

My new team is baller though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY_Aa1HI-20

[foger]

I like that st mp seems to hit from the perfect range you will be in if you end a string with a dash punch. its a lot faster frametrap, and you can cancel it into another dash punch no problem

also you can press as many buttons as you want since there is no focus attack

I have been having a lot more success with balrog lately, and a huge part of it has to be because of the headbutt change. horray balrog can get some damage now woohoo

[diamonddust131]

Been playing SF x T for awhile now, mostly using Nina/Lili, but since I main Balrog in AE, I figured I’d give it a shot in this game too. I know it’s already been stated plenty, but man, this is not AE Rog, lol. Why there isn’t armor on his EX Overhead is baffling, but at least with the grab changes in v2013, he can actually tick somewhat well. I wouldn’t say he’s harder to use, he just isn’t as dominant as in AE, which is a shame. Still, I think I’ll stick with him for awhile, since I like his combos in this game.

Played a few matches so far and yeah, he has a hard time opening people up. I’m really missing the armor on his dash punches and the wall bounce TAP is so situational to me that I hardly react to it when it happens. He should just have the armor Zangeif has when he charges his SPD on his EX punches. I wouldn’t even care about the other stuff if he just had that. At least Buffalo Headbutt hits on crouch now.

[GrandpaHemlock]

HELLO! Not a lot of action in the Balrog thread, but I have been thinking about pairing him with Ryu. Not sure who to have first.

Is there a video tutorial or anything out there? [EDIT: I just discovered the Rog Log!] I’d love to learn a trick or two with B-Rog Dawg.

Any active Balrog players still out there?