because if you roll you will eat a combo after going though the fireball because rolls are hoooooooooooooorrible 13. i think cvs2 was the best rolls ever were outside maybe kof11. anyway bye!
Hey, me and my friend were looking for local tournaments/casuals for UMvC3 and was wondering if we would be able to participate in these ranbats with you guys and stuff. I’m personally not great but he’s pretty good. Was one match from stream at Devastation. Anyways yeah.
Everyone is welcome. More players only makes everyone better
Your more than welcomed just stay away from kof please eww! Where are you located?
gg’s last night! I think my maggy/akuma/doom did very well last night. Didn’t have to bust out that Zero!
We’re located in Phoenix.
Cross streets?
87th and indian school.
Nice. Next to me for few more weeks. Moving to Tempe,bitches!
In the meantime,if you play ae:2012 let me know…
SS4AE? Nope. Haven’t got it yet. Been planning on it.
I like kof13, only been in arcade/training/trial mode so far, online community is almost nonexistent, takes forever to find 1 laggy match. I’d like to get some offline casuals/button mashing sessions for funsies. I’m not good at it, though I was decent at 98,99,2000 but the systems/combos have changed since then.
Zaine. I know you aren’t. I guess all the other elitist kof posts I see elsewhere just got me to my boiling point of annoyance. Then I saw yours and decided to rant. I know you didn’t come off that way.
I did enjoy the little amount of kof13 I got to play, but I just rather not waste what little time I have with fighters, for a non popular game. If this was 10+ years ago, I probably be allover this game regardless of scene.lol
Maybe the game will blow up and make me play it. But I just don’t see it. I’ve been burned by too many kof promises over the years. Not gonna get baited this time
Oh yeah… Where are local ranbats held btw and when? >.> It’d probably be helpful to know if I ever want to go.
Just know its at the hAZmat house. Starting on the 7th. I’ll update the first post of thread with more info. But for now just know its that day and you can still get the address of the first post of this thread
It would also be a good idea to be on Facebook and get on the team hAZmat list so you can be sent any info of upcoming events
I was looking through forums, trying to improve my fundamentals, and I found a quick rundown on the art frame trapping, I found it very refreshing, thought some of you guys might want to look at it. It’s a little lengthy, I had to compile from a few sources otherwise I would link the address, but instead I put it all in a word document and copy paste. Not trying to troll, just thought this would be the easiest way to do it; enjoy!
Purpose of Frame Traps:
Frame traps main purpose is to get counter hits by punishing your opponent for pressing buttons in the middle of your block strings (mashing jabs or OS tech, late OS techs…etc) a counter hit normal attack will deal 25% extra damage and stun than it normally does, counter hit light attacks (lk, lp) will give 1 extra frame advantage, as for medium (mk,mp) & hard attacks (hp,hk) they’ll give 3 extra frame advantage on counter hit, which makes linking certain combos and specials possible that aren’t in normal situations
#1 YOU MUST LEARN THE OPTIONS BASED AROUND CLOSE COMBAT
(I will use Ryu for these examples below since everyone knows Ryu)
For example in Melbourne i see most people do a basic block string and finish it with a tick throw or do something for example with ryu and do c.lp, c.lp, c.lp, c.mk > fireball to push the opponent out.
If you keep doing a block string into throw every time against someone who knows how to crouch tech, it’s going to be too hard to get a throw on them since you are not mixing up your block string, and if your doing a block string just for the sake of pushing them out, your wasting an opportunity, doing a block string for no reason doesn’t achieve anything, it’s your chance to deal damage to your opponent.
What you should be doing is mixing up your block strings so your opponent has to guess, e.g
HOW TO BEAT DELAYED CROUCH TECH
To beat someone who does delayed crouch tech you can do for example [c.lp, c.lp, walk up, c.mp+lp+lk] [c.lp, stand up, c.mp+lp+lk] (if you LP + LK while doing your c.mp, if they go to throw you, you will tech)
If you timed it right and opponent went to crouch tech you will get counter hit on him and then you are able to confirm into a combo, so once your opponent sees that you are able to beat delayed crouch tech hes going to be more scared to just spam crouch tech because he knows your able to beat it so then you will be also able to start landing throws on him.
HOW TO BEAT SOMEONE WHO’S GOING FOR A SETUP TO BREAK CROUCH TECH
If the defender believes you are going for block string that beats delay crouch tech, then he can mash on a quick start up move like a c.lp which will beat that setup since you will hit him while hes walking over to you.
HOW TO BEAT A JAB SPAMMER
If the attacker thinks your going to do that he can do a “frame trap” for example c.lp, slight pause , c.mp, which you time so it leaves a 1-2 frame gap for him to stick out a normal, if he went to spam c.lp you will score a counter hit on him.
HOW TO BEAT STAND TECH
If your opponent uses stand tech instead of crouch tech you have to do different things to beat that, eg [c.lp, c.lp walk up uppercut] any type of move that has invincible start up will beat throw e.g DP type of moves
But this is very risky if they block it they will be able to punish you, so mostly use this when you have 2 meters so you can cancel in case they block it
another way to beat someone who stand tech is by using dive kicks e.g Cammy and Rufus, do block string walk up a little bit then do a dive kick, If you dont use those character though you can also do something else
e.g c.lp, c.lp, walk back (they have the whiff throw animation) then you can just punish their whiff animation with what ever you want
HOW TO BEAT SOMEONE WHO TRIES TO REVERSAL YOU WITH AN INVINCIBLE START UP TYPE OF MOVE EG SHORYUKEN OR EX SPINNING BIRD KICK
simply do a string with no gaps in between e.g c.lp, c.lp then just crouch block, or if the opponent is the type that will uppercut only when your a bit closer, after your string walk up slightly then crouch block
IF YOU’RE A BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT I HAVE WROTE AND ARE VS’ING SOMEONE WHO MAINLY DELAY CROUCH TECHS HERE’S A QUICK REFERENCE TABLE OF THE MIND GAME
Frame traps > Normal spamming
Normal spamming > delayed crouch tech counter
Delayed crouch tech counter > delayed crouch tech
Two Jabs then walk backwards> Stand tech
Now that my work schedule is opening back up I should be able to start coming out again. Looking forward to giving my current team a shot against you guys
Is anyone out in East Mesa going to attend the tournament tomorrow? I would like to attend but my vehicle is in the shop and I won’t be able to go unless I can get a ride.
Gonna be jumping on Xbox LIVE from some UMvC3 in a few mins here. Would anyone like to join me?
Mike: Good shit, that will really help some new players out. About the first statement, that is the most common beginner shoto blockstring that I see, and people fail to realize that the fireball cancel is not tight. Once you see the string enough times you’re able to punish it, I’ve Ultra’d through a couple of c.MK xx Fireballs in tournament before. I’m sure you could EX Hozanto through it, which is great because the only thing you risk is burning your meter unnecessarily. (It’s safe on block, right?)
As far as frame traps go, one thing to keep in mind is that everything you’ve listed will lose to a command grab. So say you’re pressuring an Abel who’s mashing Tornado throw and you try to bait a button out of him (frame trap, crouch tech bait, reversal bait, basically any of the points you have up there) you’re gonna get thrown. Same goes for Seth, Gief, and to a lesser degree Yun and Yang.
I’ve been playing The Old Republic non stop for the past week and have not played any fighting games. It’s pretty relaxing, haha, but then I see shit like this and it makes me want to blurt out a paragraph or two.
i might jump on and play umvc3 shortly. i havent played anything in a couple weeks. guess now is a good time