When a black man shoots up people, do they claim terrorism? If he is muslim, yes.
If a middle eastern man shoots up people, do they claim terrorist? Religion is irrelevant.
You have to be dense if you don’t think America accepts whites and blacks shooting up people as a norm, compared to middle easterners.
This thread contains some the dumbest stuff I’ve ever read on SRK…
…including The Lounge, Neesa Thirst Thread and Gorillas.
I could quote you idiots and call out you out on the blatant stupidity, but it’d be pointless because that would require you all to be rational to make any difference and it’s clear you’re not.
You put like minded individuals wnd crazy assholes together you have problems. The planned parenthood bombings/shootings are terrorist attacks.
You look at the pro-life fundamentalist twitters and they sound like the insane extremist
“Praise god, they kill babies nobody will miss these hethens”
Same as
“Allah akbar! The infidels got what they deserved!”
And the white people shooting up places like this happen due to mental illness. Why that old white dude wasn’t put down like these two or all the “knife weilding” black kids makes zero sense to me.
Sure this is a case of mental health, no sane person would do this. But it is what it is.
A lot of minnesota kids get radicalized and go over to the middle east, africa, or indonesia
But then you look at abu sayaaf who are pretty damn insular as a terrorist jungle operation
He probably didn’t kill them because ISIS told him too, probably just got pissed off at something and blew up.
If I was as repressed as a muslim, I’d be on edge all the time too.
Meh, I’m far from repressed - same for fiance, sisters, mother, etc. Considering the strong opinions in this thread, the lack of knowledge is mind-boggling.
I’m not saying that’s not an issue.
.The difference is that Christianity has had about 200+ years of being put in its place by government and is somewhat more seperated from politics.
The radicalization and consequences that occur in Christian church isn’t as ridiculous or dangerous as the result of Islamic ones. Christian fundementalusm does result in domestic terrorism. But it isn’t as wide spread, nor is it as far reaching as Islamic ones. Tell me, where’s the Christian state causing havoc to the point of destabilization of entire regions to the same degree as Islam. And don’t give me Africa, because radicals there aren’t doing the damage, or are perceived as a threat outside their state.
For somebody that uses the idea of impact, you sure are incapable of applying it evenly.
I think what rockB is trying to say is that everyone is as dangerous as everyone else, statistics per capita be damned, and that every single attack on this planet is random. Pledging allegiance to Isis? Random. Mobilized armies with double digit percentage approval ratings? Random. Hamas and Isis working together now? Random.
Rather than living in a bubble to protect you from reality, how about accepting reality for what it is so innocent people don’t die. These Muslims you keep wanting to protect are often the first victims of this stupidity.
(Gee, America having fucked up priorities? Shocker.
Now time for almost everyone in America to get side-tracked by abortive talk about guns one way or the other that leads nowhere again. )
It’s a bit sad that the backlash both in here and in America is a lot less than I was actually expecting, at least so far. That “Sikh getting attacked as a Muslim before the year is out” bet is a sucker’s bet, however, since that was basically guaranteed to happen even without something like this.
As for everyone saying that Muslims need to do more, as far as I know, a lot of “snitching” by Muslims is where a lot of the more reliable information already comes from. Sure, there are bound to be some fuck-ups that shouldn’t happen because people shrug things off, but given that this latest incident is shown that such things happen even at the highest levels of government and with all the supposed resources an agency like the NSA supposedly has, that’s unfortunately to be expected.
Of course, given the double-standards that go with not being part of the majority any in place, in this case not being a white heterosexual (nominal) Christian in America, Muslims that are helping probably should do more visibly to help, even if it’s just window-dressing to get all but the most hard-line bigots off their backs. It’s not fair, but nothing in life is.
As it is, it may already be too late for effective damage control now depending on how reaction to this turns out and gets manipulated by politicians, especially since it will inevitably get connected to the whole Syrian thing despite neither of these shooters being Syrian. Syria will be focused on instead of their connection to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, both of which are well-known funders of terrorism, who we’ll just continue to blithely excuse and ignore because America is “allies” with them.
A 10/10 Muslim girl just looked at me seductively. Forget everything I just said.
And I think you guys are confusing national security with your local communities. If you guys are having issues with crazy white people shooting up your neighborhoods than say something. It’s your community. But to say what is and isn’t likely is foolish. There is a reason why statistics are the way they are. Since you are more likely to die in a car accident than by a shark, should you swim in shark infested waters all day?
The thing is, we are being trained to look for shit like this, in ANY culture. Look at the KKK. It’s heavily infiltrated by FBI and more, all because white people did realize we had to start watching these nuts, to prevent them from acting up. Does it work 100% of the time? No. But it’s sure better than just declaring “i’m not like them” over and over.
You bring up the normal muslims, but what about the ‘normal’ muslims demanding Sharia law in places like:
I’m trying my best to not be offensive, but got dammit Muslim’s need to take a good hard look at their religion and their practices. It’s quite hard for Islam to fix itself, when only men get to have a voice, as well.
When the muslim refugee’s in Germany were butting in front of women and pushing them out of their telling them they didn’t matter because they were women, and other muslim women would nod in agreement…THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT