Assault on Paris - Nov 13

God damn your such a fucking cuck. Why do you shill for muslims?

Love, tolerance and general political correctness is garbage. More and more people are making a shift to the political right instead of the leftist lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1l4gGkPziA

Didnt they say similar things during the PS2 days?

Of course there will be massive civilian casualties whenever people drop bombs or use drones. US drone strikes kill vastly more civilians than actual targets.

The US created ISIS because it destabilized the region and then left. It changed a repressive but functional government where there was not severe sectarian violence to a war torn, bombed out, corrupt shithole. When you come and tear everything down and then leave, you are responsible for the aftermath.

When one looks at the track record of the west in the middle east, it is a horrific picture. Mass intervention, frequent wars where we destroy infrastructure and kill civilians, and hey to top it all off we support the lunatic state that is Israel in oppressing the Palestinians and periodically going and murdering a bunch of them.

It should be no surprise that in that climate something like ISIS would spring up. Every destabilized government and every civilian killed potentially creates a next generation terrorist.

Regular Islamic people are not responsible for policing the crazies of their religion, the west is responsible for cleaning up their own mess.

General polls in the middle east show that most of them think the US is the greatest threat to world peace. We should mourn the French civilians who were killed, and condemn the people who killed them. But we must also hold our governments accountable for creating this situation.

  1. I’m black, I’ve got no business supporting the oppression and hate of anyone, especially in the US.

  2. I’m not shilling, I’m stating facts. The vast majority of Muslims are like you and I, people who just want to live in peace and harmony.

  3. Real talk, love, tolerance and general political correctness are the only things that keep diverse nations like the US, India and Brazil afloat.

  4. The political right are our brothers. However, I can’t support their kneejerk and reactionary politics.

As someone who has served tactically and strategically in both the US armed services and as a private contractor this number is way to high. While your point is valid, boots on the ground doesn’t stop civilian casualties. It greatly reduces that number. There are a plethora of reasons why boots on the ground is always a complicated solution, especially in a place like Syria. I haven’t read much of what France plans to do or what their goal is so I won’t comment on this situation until I have more knowledge of it.

Don’t feed the troll.

You didnt ignore me? Didnt get that ignore cap increase you wanted?
All I’m advocating is more nationalistic ideals.

Assuming the men immigrating is the best of their people that would mean that the place they fled from becomes more crappier.
Further destabilized them and increases the amount of problems instead of getting at the core issue.

Jimmy and Whiteshadow are right in they’re mindset and are not wrong. People should look after their own people first and foremost.
Then consider helping foreigners as a luxury instead of it being the mandatory for the sake of proving “Humanity”.
But what your seeing now with this immigration policy is a complete giveaway to foreign people that many of whom are not refugees or even Syrians.
Western powers becoming both babysitters and aggressors. (With Canada being just babysitters now.)

Why are people replying to freezingcicicada and zatalcon?
Those 2 are either retards or trolls, it is a waste of time engaging with them, plain and simple.

What did i say that you didn’t like to hear, you stupid piece of shit?

I really wish I could find the article, I’ll try my best hunt it down, but the US army several years ago did some urban training simulation in Dallas (if I recall correctly), and had a 50% mortality rate. Ever since then, I’ve seen more and more air strikes and the introduction of drones, and less “boots on ground.”

I dont fully agree with that. While we can definitely see where our interventions have failed. Its not like these countries were booming utopias that we came in and fucked up.

Iran for instance, before the iranian revolution, was still a fucked up place, and arguably some say that its not any better now than it was before shah was taken out of leadership. People love to post those pictures of a westernized looking iran from the 60s, as if it was this awesome place before the revolution/foreign intervention, when it really wasnt. It was an autocracy that shah was gradually trying to westernize more, but while a middle class had emerged over time, most people benefiting were of the upper class, while many of the poor were still disenfranchised, unemployed, and angry for various reasons. Hence the iranian revolution.

So for the sake of not typing 9 paragraphs, to oversimplify recent history in iran, and compare it to other countries, its not so much that westerners come in as the big bad guys who fuck everything up when it was working perfectly fine, as much as they were already living in a corrupt nation that depowered them, pimped them as they pleased, and britain and america saw opportunities to take advantage of some shit. Interventions were made by foreign forces at times, usually for our own greedy purposes, with the hopes of getting someone in that can at least stabilize the fuckery, and that has rarely happened.

This idea that these countries in west asia and africa that have seen western intervention are fucked only because of “our” intermingling in their politics is dishonest. Its complicated and messy, but there definitely isnt only america and britain to blame. There is definitely leadership by their own people, who follow their same religious doctrine, that should have their best interest at heart, that can be blamed for the state of their countries.

I don’t blame people for some of their misconceptions in this topic; I was the same way myself, until I started talking to and reading the works of former Muslims who had left the faith and were honest about it.

I could write a million things, but let’s start with some basic facts.

To begin with, 70+% of Muslims worldwide believe in strict Sharia Law everywhere, which includes executing homosexuals, executing Muslims that leave the faith, raping/beating women with impunity, and treating all non-Muslims as third class citizens who have to pay a tax to Muslims and possess limited rights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

Also, here is a fantastic article written by Bosch Fawstin, a former Muslim who left the faith;

http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2012/04/who-cares-about-islam.html

"My name is Bosch and I’m a recovered Muslim. That is, if Muslims don’t kill me for leaving Islam, which it requires them to do. That’s just one of the reasons I’ve been writing and drawing against Islam and its Jihad for a number of years now. But fortunately for us, Islam hasn’t been able to make every Muslim its slave, just as Nazism wasn’t able to turn every German into a Nazi. So there is Islam and there are Muslims. Muslims who take Islam seriously are at war with us and Muslims who don’t aren’t.

But that doesn’t mean we should consider these reluctant Muslims allies against Jihad. I’ve been around Muslims my entire life and most of them truly don’t care about Islam. The problem I have with many of these essentially non-Muslim Muslims, especially in the middle of this war being waged on us by their more consistent co-religionists, is that they give the enemy cover. They force us to play a game of Muslim Roulette since we can’t tell which Muslim is going to blow himself up until he does. And their indifference about the evil being committed in the name of their religion is a big reason why their reputation is where it is."

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  • Mr.Wizard

Granted it’s a bit over the top and I think mostly wrong in the particular case we have right now, this is not a completly dumb statement.

The tension…

Yeah, i didnt feel like commenting on it, but will now.

Bernies statements arent unfounded. I mean, the emphasis on directly is mostly what has people jumping his bones about the comment. I dont know the context in full of the comment yet, but hes not the first person, nor will he be the last to bring up how climate change is fucking mad countries in the ass, and theyre going to have to go somewhere and do something to survive. Obama said something similar a few months ago in May.

Bernie just looks crazy, so people automatically assume what hes saying is completely crazy, and its not. Climate change is basically a silent contributer to the issues that many people in third world countries with already limited resources face.

A new video shows Anonymous declaring its ‘biggest operation ever’ against ISIS - http://www.businessinsider.com/anonymous-has-declared-war-on-isis-2015-11?r=UK&IR=T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w49NCXhq0YI

‘Idiots’: ISIS responds to Anonymous threatening its ‘biggest operation ever’ against them - http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-anonymous-response-paris-attacks-2015-11

So basically anonymous is going to continue doing what it was already doing, hacking and monitoring social media accounts of extremist. Stuff that government agencies are already doing. You cant stop isis with twitter fingers anyways, but every little bit counts.

The idea that we can see massive change by a small single group in things by sitting behind a computer screen is comical. Did we all forget what happened when they fucked with the cartels, they cut someones head off, and had to back off. I mean, correct me if im wrong on that.

And doesn’t work when you factor in that former jihadists have stated that you can do anything to lie including renounce islam so long as the end result is success in jihad.

So basically they could say they’re christian, get in, and start a cell.