Thanks for the very helpful info. On my pad I have lk mapped to my left trigger and lp to the right and its very difficult to hit them at the same time (IMO) so I just map throw to a single button. I actually use mk and mp to focus though. But when I first got the stick I said, “Ooh, I have two buttons left over…I should just set them to FA and throw”. But like I said earlier, didnt know if that was allowed in tourneys and also I didnt wanna be at a tourney somewhere down the line that was possibly held at an actual arcade and be screwed. The more and more I play with the stick though I find it easier to use lp&lk for throw and mp&mk for focus rather than using a macro so I think I may stick with that. Again, thanks for the info
Yeah man, totally understand. I think I’m just gonna spend a few hours just getting the commands down for certain moves without pressing any buttons so I can get it into my muscle memory. Like I said before, seeing Daigo do that was just incredible to me…it gave me a new found respect for that guy on top of the massive amount of respect I had for him already. The time and the practice it must’ve taken for him to master that is just mind boggling to me. And I actually watched that BEFORE I even had a stick. So now that I have one it really gets me. Not to mention that it was lightning fast lol. Deep Breath Ahhh one day…
Because I don’t think you’re going to find some silver bullet button layout that makes everything click. I think you’re just blaming the general discomfort of a new controller on the button layout.
I mean, fuck man, theres 720 possible button layouts on a 6 button stick alone. You really wanna try all those for the off chance you find the phantom godlike layout?
I don’t want to be “that guy” (comes out of nowhere saying he can do standing 720s all day long), but the SF series is super elementary regarding execution (especially SF4). SF4’s stuff is extremely basic, I guarantee you will have that stuff down in less than a year. Assuming you keep at it, of course. I don’t really play SF4, yet I did every combo challenge in the game with little effort as soon as it was released
What I mean to say is, you’ll be laughing at yourself pretty soon. You’ll look back and go “wow, I sure was retarded, drooling over someone doing a dp, mp+mk, a dash then qcfx2!”
Also, Daigo has been playing fighting games for over a decade. That has alot to do with his execution.
To do what he does takes far less than “a decade”. It’s not like operating a 8-way lever is a very complicated artform. To pull numbers out of my ass, I’d say you can hit your execution consistency ceiling in two or three years, even less time if you’re dedicated
Lol…I would if I could. At the moment I use a TOTALLY unconventional layout for my pad but it works for me. I use Akuma in particular and back in the days when I first started using him and experimenting I chose my current layout based of the insanely easy Demon output I can do and was able to work with the other button placement just getting used to them after practice. After about 10 years now my layout is still the same and beneficial to me and my character the way I have it. So I figured why not do the same with a stick? But ONLY if it does not hinder me from attending tournaments…thats the key. I mean thats thats what we play for right? To be the best?(At least for me) You can’t be the best and not be able to enter tournaments and prove it because you have some crazy button layout that not allowed lol
I’m not blaming the discomfort of the new controller. Just was trying to be comfortable but also not be hindered in any competitive play for the sake of my comfortability. Like I said in an earlier post…If different layouts were not allowed competitively then I have no problem learning the traditional layout.
Thats my goal…a few years
Definitely
Lol I feel you. I wasnt saying that I cant do it. I’m saying that even me now trying to do a simple Hado motion on the stick I have like 3 or 4 extra commands in there. He did it perfectly and it was insanely quick. I dont know if you’ve seen it but whew boy thats just incredible. Now, I’m sure someday in the future I WILL be able to do that but as of right now being a new stick player, it was great to see something like that. I can do that on a pad the way he did it as far as accuracy goes…I think my speed may be slightly slower
Don’t get me wrong when I say this cause I’m sure everyone would like to get perfect, non-excessive inputs but, I personally perform special attacks in a way that’s comfortable for me. Like for shoryuken for example. I use forward -> qcf + p in order to shoryuken instead of doing the traditional motion. Sometimes when in mid combo, I’ll do hcf +p for a fireball. While few of my combos don’t follow the inputs exactly, I have no problem executing them.
As said before, I would like perfect execution but I don’t want to be uncomfortable while playing so if someone replayed my match and watched my inputs would be in shock of my perfect execution. I don’t mash anything to combo but I sometimes extend the motions to be more comfortable to me. If fundamentals and execution are spot on than you don’t need to please anyone by having beastly inputs. As long as you’re satisfied, that’s all that matters.
Totally understandable…and I do my DP’s the same way :o). But to get those inputs perfectly like that and in the fashion he did it in was crazy. I’m sure it took alot of training and discipline for that and perfecting things like that bleeds over into the rest of your game. That’s why he’s one of the best if not the best.
On my pad my inputs are crazy looking also but its gets the job done very well. Just starting out with this stick, shooting for “perfect inputs” and other things can only do wonders for you. If perfect is 100% and I quit at 90% thats still way above and beyond the rest.
But you’re right when you say comfortability is the key. It was the subject of my whole post to begin with lol