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Fix’d.

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many of those characters you consider “good” id say are more neutral in relations to the storyline of sf4, they basically aren’t really a part of it - for example dan and blanka have nothing to do with the main storyline and don’t contribute to the evil party or the good party, they are just doing their own thing

no doubt about it, that akuma is considered an evil character in the sf4 storyline and is definitely a villain

if you want to base your good/evil thing in morality it’ll become too conveluted, you need to see it in relation to the storyline, for example

sagat in sf2 = evil
sagat in sf4 = neutral

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Not to mention, he never picks a fight. And out of the 4 people he’s killed 3 of them are back, and one of them was evil. Goutetsu, Gouken, Adon and M. Bison. Some how, Adon’s alive again…

And Akuma never killed Gen, he spared Gen’s life when he saw that Gen was dying. Gen didn’t really like that all too much…

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Who cares if you base it on relation to main story or not. Gouki isn’t evil period. He does not delight in taking lives or harming others nor is he mentally unstable. Nor does he look down on others or seek to dominate others. He just wants a worthy opponent and when he kills someone he only kills them out of respect and only if they are near his level of power. He fought Ken and Gen and spared both of them. Why? Because Ken wasn’t near his level and Gen is sick. Gouki isn’t heartless. Not by a longshot.

Sagat DEFINITELY isn’t evil. Misguided and vengeful early on the SF story sure. Evil? No. Even when he was vengeful he didn’t want to kill Ryu he just wanted to reclaim his title as the strongest. He killed one person. Go Hibiki. Dan’s father. Well it was in a Muay Thai match where death does happen albeit rarely. That said Go was pretty pissed off that he lost to Sagat and tried to gouge out Sagat’s eye when Sagat was trying to help him off the mat. So, yeah Sagat lost it and killed him. Was it on purpose? Probably not and even then Sagat realized his error and tried to make up for it by letting Dan beat him.

And when Dictator tried to take over Ryu, Sagat held him off while Ken and Sakura confronted Dictator. Yeah, sorry I can’t see Sagat as evil in any way shape or form.

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Where are you getting this from?

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“Gouki isn’t evil period. He does not delight in taking lives or harming others nor is he mentally unstable. Nor does he look down on others or seek to dominate others.” - that is wrong and disturbing all at the same time :confused:

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Common sense and SF wiki.

dwd: How is it disturbing?

You guys seem to have a very black and white view of things. Nothing is that simple.

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You got me!

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Ok, lets try to apply the wonkiness of SF to real life. Pro boxers Vitali(gouken) and Wladimir(akuma) Klitschko. If Wladimir attempted to constantly kill his brother in training because “its his philosophy” thats fucking evil. Not only that, Vitali has a son(Ryu, yes i know ryu is not gouken’s biological father) and Wladimir wants to fight and kill him as well.Also in his 3rd strike ending he outright murders a ship and a submarine full of people! That nigga is evil! A badass, but evil.

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Guys evil can still mean “Not good”. If they have good morals and a good attitude they’re not evil. But if they have a bad attitude or looks evil they’re probably Chaotic Good, to call upon DnD alignments.

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Lawful Good Lawful Neutral Lawful Evil
—Guile-------- Ryu------Vega(Claw)

Neutral Good True Neutral Neutral Evil
-----Dhalsim-----Dan-------Sagat

Chaotic Good Chaotic Neutral Chaotic Evil
—Zangief------Akuma-------Bison

Sexy Good Sexy Neutral Sexy Evil
—Chun Li-----Sakura-----Juri

Fixed, that’s how I think it is.

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glad i’m not the only one that feels that way. play to win son.

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I’d be surprised if they didn’t try and kill each other every time they sparred, what with the steroids and shit they’re both taking. Although not as much as that 7 foot king mongoloid who fought David Haye. (bloody soviets and their cheating)

(3rd strike sub was just ironically named and was actually full of russians, so its cool that he blew them all up)

:wgrin:

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I am shocked anyone could consider Gouki evil or Sagat for that matter.

Only truly evil person in SF is Dictator and MAYBE Seth.

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I don’t think Sagat is “evil” at all anymore. Judging from the cut-scenes, Ryu is just Sagats number 1 rival now. Also in one of the trailers for Super Sagat tells Adon “the power you seek is twisted” so i think Gat has changed his outlook when it comes to fighting.

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WTF has Sagat done to indicate he is evil? Seriously. He took the life of a man who attempted to rip out his friggin eye in a rage, but that’s it. And he atoned for that. Doesn’t change the fact that he did it, but he knows it was wrong and it was in the heat of the moment. Other then that…where is this so called evil?

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Fwd hk into ultra lol. Really though, Sagat’s character is cool as fuck and not even a little evil.

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I’m pretty sure what makes you evil is your willingness to go out of the way to do things that would bring harm to others.

Balrog would definitely go out of his way to beat someone up for some fight money. And Vega goes out of his way to hurt people because he doesn’t deem them beautiful.

Both are definitely evil.

Akuma and Sagat aren’t out doing evil deeds, although when provoked, they would probably kill you, that makes them neutral.

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Yeah, Claw and Boxer I can see as evil in terms of morals.

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So Rog is evil because he wants money yet Akuma can constantly try to kill his family and be neutral. So if i chose to go challenge your family to fights and murder them you wont think I’m a bad person?.. yea that makes sense. And a lot of people feel that Sagat is bad because he worked with shadowloo, they forget the only reason he did that was a means to fight Ryu. Out of all the characters i like Gat’s story the best; being at the top, losing, and pursuing the throne again.