Annoyances resulting from easy input

[djjizzdrinky]

WHY DID THEY PUT EASY INPUTS IN THE GAME!? Isn’t it enough that idiots can use the wiimote!? Did they have to do this too? a+b+c air dashes are, well, dashed! Its so annoying to use the button dash, jam the attack button and then do a stupid super!

Also, has anyone else had problems with dash+c not always working or is it me? Sometimes it just doesn’t come out.

[dori]

Yeah. I’ve noticed with characters with a 236 move if you perform a 3C and roll the stick up to 9 for the jump, it’ll instead go into the 236C, even if you only press C once. I thought it was because I was somehow accidentally pressing the button twice, but when I checked with input display, it was actually because it was counting a single input for two commands.

it’s called “negative edge” and has been in every Capcom fighter since SF2 WW.

[Sirami]

it’s called “negative edge” and has been in every Capcom fighter since SF2 WW.

Yeah, but the window for “negative edge” is extremely long in TvC, which results in accidental supers/specials. That’s the problem.

[Sirami]

it’s called “negative edge” and has been in every Capcom fighter since SF2 WW.

Yeah, but the window for “negative edge” is extremely long in TvC, which results in accidental supers/specials. That’s the problem.

[DevilChrist]

Well Polimar, Blade, Ken and Yatterman-2 are characters you need to dash with the stick and not three buttons because other wise you will get attacks you do not want out.

[SaeQuo]

Simply put, the input windows for specials in TvC are too long. It leads to a lot of really annoying things. Not only are they too long, but there?s other oddities that I?ve noticed as well. I’d like to share some of these so that others can look out for them.

For starters:

Polimar:
294abc results in his 360 super every time. This means that he simply can?t SJ forward then IAD back. You can SJ back and IAD forward, but you have to make sure that your input is 275abc and not 276abc.

Ryu:
When executing his BnB 2a 5b 2b 5c 2c 6c xx 214c make sure the last set of inputs involving 2 are straight down and that you return to 5 after 6c (don’t do a half roll back). If you?re input is sloppy, you?ll get a shoryuken instead of the desired qcb, which is likely to make you fume and say somthing like “how does qcb result in a dragon upper?”.

Roll:
If playing with Cashern as a partner, if you use her otg BnB (either from sweeps or from swing), you can call Cashern for extra hits while she’s charging or scrubbing, however, make sure you start recharging your super after you call the assist, because for some odd reason the game drops your charge when calling the assist. Obviously, to restart the charge, just return to neutral and hold back. I don?t know if this applies to any other charge moves, or just this super, but I tested it.

There?re a lot of odd things like this, mostly stemming from long input windows. Feel free to share any more oddities and annoyances stemming from input seeking. If this info is appreciated, I’ll share more annoyances and oddities as I find them.

This shit is crazy as hell. You are describing all kinds of things that are normal in fighting games. Get better at actually controling your players instead of bitching. You even say in the Ryu part that all you have to do is go back to 5(neutral) for this not to happen. DUH!!! For Roll, you can not call assist while holding back, again DUH!! For Polimar, as many others have said, the SPD(360) has never been all the inputs. I mean how else do people get it without jumping?? Or do you just not actually play fighting games.

This thread is so not needed. It is not TvC but rather you do not have proper contol of your players. Get better.

That sounds more like sloppy execution than anything, 2 to 6 is used in tons of other games with the possibility of a hado, or shoryu (especially in SF4) but in TvC its not bad at all. I can see 294 being a 360, but seriously abc as dash? people shouldn’t use macros in the first place because of whatever reason, but having to use one for dash it just plain silly.

I agree with this so much. Except for the OBD. It is helpful, and as long as you are aware of what is happening (like everyone in this thread seems to understand but still are too shitty at the game to fix it in THEMSELVES, so they would rather bitch about the games inputs.) you can adjust what you are doing to avoid it. Really I have not seen easy inputs in this game.

Can you do 33A and get a DP like in SSF4??? Cuz those are easy inputs in my eyes. If those are in this game and you are missing shit because of it then bitch. But if you just can not return to neutral state or do not know that 4P tags and dose not call assist, you suck!!!

[dori]

is that guy serious about not using macro for dashing?

trust me, there ARE some bullshit inputs in TvC, and using SFIV as an example doesn’t help your argument one bit.
I mean, this is a game where you can do a chicken wing motion for an SPD (a la Hyper Bomb). It’s silly.

[M.D]

my favorite is when I do a RDP motion+AA and get a Boomerang Raid.

Why do you do this to me Alex? You’re my main dammit.