we need a list of safe jumps and a list of the charchters that it works on
the safe jumps that are in this forum dont seem to be TRUE safe jumps because they dont force block rufus’s jumping normal will whiff
IMO the divekicks are safe jumps too, not because of the timing but because of the hitbox. But I agree, I think kourck was the one with the safe jump setups.
There are some safe jumps that force block, and then there’s empty safe jumps. Most of the ones I see on this forum are TRUE safe jumps. Which one are you talking about specifically?
the ones with the whiffing normals such as the shooto hp are mostly not true safe jumps from what i’v seen , just a question is there a safe way to attack fei that stops both flame kick and chicken wing ?
The j.hp safe jump after GT on shoto is a safe jump against dps and if the shoto doesn’t dp he will have to block it if timed right. So I would consider that a true safe jump.
For fei long, if you’re talking about safe jumps then yeah you can.
by hp i meant the forword throw whiff hp , genraly most of the throw + whiff ones dont seem to work right although i havent tested some of the ones vs adon , btw could you please tell me about the safe way to atack fei long ?
there’s a setup for beating flame kick with a Divekick, it is quite easy since the priority of flamekick is ASS. Ive yet to figure out an OS to beat chicken wing though.
The throw, whiff hp, jump forward hp is a true safe jump. The problem is it has to be timed perfectly. It takes plenty of practice. Whiffing the HP as early as possible is not as easy as doing a reversal. I did have a video showing the one for adon that is a true safe jump. It’s in another thread somewhere. Or just check out my youtube page. YouTube - ranmasama’s Channel
I don’t think there’s a good OS for the feilong chicken wing.
I remember chasing the chicken wing down after a dive kick in a tourney match I played. It is on youtube somewhere. So maybe there is a way to OS sorta after a crossup divekick. Just hold up-back (which will be up-toward after crossup) during the block stun of the dive kick and chase it with j.hp to sweep. Maybe you can do U1 if it’s in correct range. I might try this in training mode whenever I’m not lazy.
More samples for you all, this time: Abel, Dhalsim and Viper.
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you should also add option select grab vs abel , most abels use ex roll to escape, i tried option select ultra 2 vs fei chicken wing it doesnt seem to work right , so the only way to shut down all his escape options would be to do safe jump option select sweep , it will beat flame kick + chicken wing + backdash so the only question is which safe jump to use or rather what is the easiest one to use ?
Another quick one today, Ive been busy but I will try to finish all OS before MvC3 drops.
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This is a Os vs Ibuki, but this same setup is 4 frame safe. I havent seen it before so I guess I could say I “discovered” it, but if someone had done this before, well, then I guess I did not lol
Hey I don’t mean to be rude but what happened to this thread? This seems to have so much potential. Great stuff so far!
Im sorry I kinda got discouraged in AE since Rufus lost U2 (his main OS tool) now that he’s getting it back in AE 2012 I’ll start recording again.
I would record, but I have a crappy camera. I’m start posting my matches everyone I’m on stream
What about OS’ing with EX Snake Strike, EX Messiah and GT?
it actually depends a lot of what char are you OSing against. EX SS isnt really that good for OSs, EX messiah and GT are pretty useful in certain scenarios or situations. U2 is his best OS tool and im glad is coming back in 2012.
couple of questions(dead thread!)
what are rufus’ OS options after:
hp GT mid screen
hp GT in the corner
back throw mid screen
back throw corner
vs any character
3f safejumps
5f safejump
thanks!!!
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Around 6:33 it looks like justin uses a cr.st OS. From the video can anyone tell how he really used it? I cant really tell if its a throw/aa or what (whatever it is i need it tho, i get regularly beaten down by viper)
it looks like cr lp, cr lp + cr mp…so if wolf doesnt do the burn kick another lp will come out
its looks more like a cr.lp walk up to os throwtech with cr.mp. Wolfkrone likes to throw early right out of stun a lot