Animal Thread

[white_shadow]

Crows, ravens, and magpies as a whole are self aware. So are several types of parrot and a couple raptors.

I knew crows, ravens and magpies are quite intelligent and know how to use new tools based on their environment etc. However, I’ve never heard about them being collectively self-aware, esp. since news articles were raving about one specific bird being cognizant. This was years ago, so maybe research has proven the novelty to be misguided?

Tool making/using and social interactions seem to be key to expanding intellect, and language is catalyst.

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she was asleep?.. where was the father in all this?

cats are an entirely different issue. like lions, male cats are known to kill off the offspring of other females before mating with them. this is because however young the cubs/kittens are they will eventually realise at some point that their adoptive father isnt biologically there’s, how they find out i dont know but when this realisation kicks in the son will attemp to kill the father.

the father is a random alley cat, probably dead. I haven’t seen him in months. there is a strong male figure here though, but he’s not anyone’s daddy

as for how they find out, I think they’d just stay in anger mode and would attack anything they think are capable of harming their kids.

my point is i dont think its thinking.

trust me when I say animals think. I don’t think they think anything as deep and philosophical as “I’m raising a child that could kill me one day” but they do think

Ok,cats felines, are pretty much all moronic. But cats will raise kittens that are not theirs, and even other animals and then eat them.

Some birds, crows being a huge one, are debtable as smarts as dolphins and chimps in some aspects, it’s scary actually. But a large majority of them are about as smart as your average dog.

Thing is, you can trick almost any female animal into taking over via mother instinct, most males will kill given the slightest chance.

It’s also worth nothing that intelligence is not a predictor of logical or rational behavior in any state or form. Some people and creatures intelligence tend to be complete logical (in human terms these are sociopaths with no empathy or emotion) in other cases they tend to be extremely caring and emotional (these are humanists in human terms) so you can’t just blanketly say “a completely logical approach means smarter” not the case.

not really an argument against what I’m saying I don’t think. what I’m trying to say is mothers have ways of identifying what’s theirs and what’s not theirs. if a cat can do this, it tells me that others can as well. especially more intelligent ones. i’m not saying she should look at the bird and go “uhh… this thing is MUCH bigger than me, I don’t think this is my kid” but I’m saying maybe it’s like leaving a baby on a doorstep. you don’t kill/ignore the child and move on with your life, you just take care of it. just because.

[Sexperienced]

as for how they find out, I think they’d just stay in anger mode and would attack anything they think are capable of harming their kids.

I meant the kitten/cub when its older realising that the father who raised it isnt biologically its real father.

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I meant the kitten/cub when its older realising that the father who raised it isnt biologically its real father.

oh.

what the fuck. they realize that? damn…

[Sexperienced]

lol

[Sexperienced]

Damn that’s some hardcore shit. Do other animals do this too?

besides the cat species, I think sharks possibly do this also.

crazy fact about sharks: a number of baby shark pups develop in the womb at the same but the womb only has enough room for one so they all fight, kill and eat each other (in the womb) until one survives.

[Sexperienced]

Monkey feeds baby tiger
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Intelligent or not, this bird is SUPER CUTE

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[Hello]

I meant the kitten/cub when its older realising that the father who raised it isnt biologically its real father.

Yeah, that must be a pretty awkward dad to son talk.

[white_shadow]

I love that bird.

[Hello]

I love that bird.

If you liked that bird then check this one out

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[white_shadow]

Seen it before but still love that feathery doo. lol

[Sexperienced]

Beluga being serenaded by a Mariachi band.

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Beluga’s blowing bubbles

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Beluga’s are so cute.

[Rhio2k]

she was asleep?.. where was the father in all this?

cats are an entirely different issue. like lions, male cats are known to kill off the offspring of other females before mating with them. this is because however young the cubs/kittens are they will eventually realise at some point that their adoptive father isnt biologically there’s, how they find out i dont know but when this realisation kicks in the son will attemp to kill the father.

Nah, the males kill the kittens to bring the females into heat again. That’s the only reason: they want some ass, and to ensure that every kitten around is theirs. If humans worked that way, dudes would be doing it too. Chase off sorry-ass wimp boyfriend, kill the baby, hook up with the hot chick and get some ass. That’s pretty much all toms are about.The cubs won’t try to kill the male when they get older because they get chased away by the females to find another pride to take over and to ensure there’s no incest. Housecats don’t really give a fuck, they’ll get along as long as you can make sure that some new/wandering tom doesn’t come along and kill the current kittens before they’re old enough to run from him. After that age, everything’s cool…cuz by that time, the queens will be coming into heat again anyway on their own.

[white_shadow]

I love belugas more than any other whales.

[Rhio2k]

I love belugas more than any other whales.

Even the majestic narwhal? The unicorn of the sea?

[Sexperienced]

Nah, the males kill the kittens to bring the females into heat again. That’s the only reason: they want some ass, and to ensure that every kitten around is theirs. If humans worked that way, dudes would be doing it too. Chase off sorry-ass wimp boyfriend, kill the baby, hook up with the hot chick and get some ass. That’s pretty much all toms are about.The cubs won’t try to kill the male when they get older because they get chased away by the females to find another pride to take over and to ensure there’s no incest. Housecats don’t really give a fuck, they’ll get along as long as you can make sure that some new/wandering tom doesn’t come along and kill the current kittens before they’re old enough to run from him. After that age, everything’s cool.

yes you’re right. I assumed it was the other way because of an experiment i read about years ago. basically when a cat gave birth to 3 kittens scientists decided to add a 4th newly born kitten from a different female to test whether the father and mother would realise if that particular kitten wasnt their’s. the mother did by smelling it, but took care of it anyway, but the father didnt seem suspicious at all. There wasnt very much interraction between the “fake” kitten and its presumed father at that point. As it got older it would often get into fights with the father after they’d sniff each other, as the weeks past their fights would intensify and at one point it almost killed the father… the experiment ended at that point. The father didnt have a problem with the other kittens.

[white_shadow]

Even the majestic narwhal? The unicorn of the sea?

Yes. Narwhals are cool, but Belugas are adorable and placid. Unlike evil homicidal rapist dolphins.

[Sexperienced]

anyone interested in japanese cuisine?:wasted:

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[Sexperienced]

some kid was killed by a hungry polar bear in Norway yesterday (or the day before). He was asleep in his tent when the bear attacked him and a few of his friends.

The bear was eventually caught and shot dead. (image below).

Maybe i’m being harsh but why would they kill an animal in its natural habitat thats only doing what comes naturally to it?