I’m very aware of the tactics lower order of animals take what could be subjectively be seen as rape or murder, specifically lions (domestic felines too), sharks, and various reptiles. The difference here is that animals like dolphins and chimpanzees will do it for the sheer thrill, and engage in lethal conflicts with other healthy males of their species; which most animals refrain from doing other than in the mating season, and even then they it’s rarely lethal.
These are actions some humans also engage in often, which seems to indicate a kind of psychopathy existing amongst members of other self-aware species. I guess the difference is that human beings have the intellect to regulate and castigate certain behaviors deemed harmful to the whole.
I have zero sympathy for stupid exotic animal owners that don’t truly respect said creatures and end up getting their faces ripped off. You don’t keep something in your house that can instantly kill you as a novelty or conversation starter. Old bitches trying to have Bubbles serve them tea and shit not knowing that the wrong combination of bad perfume and low flying plane noise might set that nigga off into PILLAGE mode.
Kromo: Stupid ranged attacks are always overpowered. Don’t sleep on dolphins and whales, they prolly got super psychic powers making us think we running things when we sit there and feed them fish all day like thats REALLY entertaining for us. “Look guys I am feeding an animal food, APPLAUSE!!!”
That’s not really much different from my assertions. All animals engage in it, it’s just that the smarter an animal is the more reasons they will find to engage in it. As I stated before.
I’m not sure it’st “psychopathy” per say. Psychopathy is a clinical term, it means you can’t feel empathy. It’s often the core of poor behavior. Take rape for example. A psychopath doesn’t feel empathy for a victim, so there is no actual difference between staring at a woman’s ass and then making a crude remark in public and raping here from a psychopathic standpoint. Those behaviors are both poor, and it makes the target feel bad, and it’s demeaning. A psychopath just doesn’t give a fuck, lack of empathy and narcissism come into play here. They’re aware this isn’t approved of by society, but they’ll do what they feel they can get away with. But that doesn’t mean a rapist is a psychopath. They could empathize with their victims and have done it for reasons of power, hurt/rejection, or they just just be flat out bonkers.
It’s debatable how much even more intelligent animals actually feel empathy. We know some of them do, elephants do, but a lot of the other higher end ones don’t at all. So while psychopathy among humans is a serious thing and a problem, I’d be hesitant to toss it out at animals. It would be like accusing a chimp of having being a narcisist or vain because they look into a mirror all the time. And while a chimp that rapes a frog is fully aware that it’s hurting it, there’s no way it can comprehend psychological damage so it’s impossible for it to emphasize with it and thus the behavior wouldn’t be psychopathic.
Intelligent animals just tend to find more reasons to engage in the violent behavior everything engages in.
There was a dolphin that got one over on sea world. The trainer figured he’d reward the dolphin for cleaning it’s own tank, one fish for one piece of trash. First the dolphin started tearing the trash into pieces to get more. When the trainers got wise to it the dolphin started using it’s fish to attract birds, killing the birds, and then stashing them at the bottom and refusing to let anybody clean them till he got more fish. Which he’d then use to get more birds.
Yeah thats even worse, you visiting Ethel for some crumpets and she decides to introduce you to her new associate, Bobo, who was just recently relocated from the darkest part of the congo. She over there trying to use sign language with this nigga on some Mathew Brodrick ish while he is trying to shake off the tranqs that have kept his murderous rage sedated. A few days later you waking up with a puppet face.
Wolves don’t rape anything. They just mount lower ranking members. No sex is involved, same as when your more aggressive dog, male or female, mounts your less aggressive dog (owners keep fucking up the pack order/dominance process by breaking it up, because they want to believe that every dog is equal, as if they were human, and that just can’t be. There can be only one alpha, and the rest beta). It’s how canines establish dominance and pack order. There’s no red rocket involved.
Lions kill their own…for it’s reproduction: a male lion will kill all cubs he didn’t father to bring their mothers back into heat so he can make kids of his own. House cats do the same.
On the other hand, I find it interesting that some of what we would consider “lower level” animals, such as snakes and reptiles, to have an “honor system” when fighting.
Like rattlesnakes for example, they don’t bite each other when competing, they do this wierd wrestling where they intertwine vertically and pin the other to the ground. IIRC, cobras do this as well.
Some monitor lizards will do the “pin you” wrestling. (Not the Komodo Dragon, IIRC they kick each other’s asses bad, with claws and biting)
that’s more or less because their natural tools don’t work well against same species.
snakes don’t bite each other because it’s pointless; can’t poison them.
skunks don’t spray each other [edit: forgot to mention] cause it doesnt work against them, they have a good ol fashioned melee.
cats kill by striking from a comfortable range and dodging counterattacks lightning fast. however… fighting another cat that way is pointless. you swing they dodge; they swing you dodge. the only real way to fight against another cat is to get a hold of that mother fucker.
monkeys and humans on the other hand, we don’t give a fuck. monkeys rip off the arms of other monkeys. humans bomb each other and shoot them in the face. our tools work against ourselves just fine. if i’m not mistaken, i believe dogs don’t give a shit either.
I’ve always wondered why humans can’t seem to tap into the “same power to weight” ratio as most animals. It can’t be a “we’re lazier nowadays” thing because people have ever really been close at all. It’s just always made me curious if it is some kind of mental block or a body limitation. I’ve never looked deeply into it but I’ve never heard a decent response either
Big cats straight up brawl it out. See lions, they don’t give a fuck. Bears will just throw down as well.
For a lot of animals though, injured = dead. As a prey animal the predators will target you, and as a predator you’re not going going to be able to catch anything. So it’s generally not worth it to slug it out.
In general, most animals that aren’t afraid to go at it either have a pack to back them up should they get injured (see wolves or lions) consume all sorts of stuff so hunting isn’t an issue (see wolverines), or are also so damn big nothing else will screw with them (who’s going to fight a bear other than another bear?).
Apparently its because animals have less control over their muscles, its either all or nothing for them. Intricate tasks such as threading a needle for example would be an impossible task for a chimpanzee.
Not all muscle is the same, even in humans there are different kinds. They aren’t built like us at all.
And adult chimps can weigh around as much as we do. IIRC it has a lot to do with muscle vs neuro fiber as well. We have a lot more nerves that enables us to make really small movements, chimps on the other hand just one nerve fires off a ton of muscle at once.
Also keep in mind that their muscle is so dense they can’t swim, they’d sink like a rock.
I think that has something to do with the amount of energy the organism has dedicated to other systems
for example, cheetahs are pretty damn fast. that’s because everything in their body is dedicated to speed. they’re lightweight, flexible, their skeletal muscles have some serious exploding power, their cardiovascular system is pretty powerful and lets them go at that high speed without breaking down, the way their back legs are settled lets them use more force to propel themselves forward, the tail helps them change direction instantly, etc. but because of such specialization, they don’t handle other things as well. for example, a cheetah couldn’t take as much damage as a lion could… so it wouldn’t be able to fight a prolonged battle well.
to go deeper into the specialization thing, fliers (birds and bats) are even bigger specialists. everything’s dedicated to help them fly, even their bodily waste. vampire bats actually pee while they’re drinking blood so that they can fly away if they have to. being able to fly is extremely important because it’s their only line of defense and offense. if, for instance, a wolf got a hold of an owl and bit into its wings, that owl’s dead. doesn’t mean that the owl isn’t powerful, just means that with that huge strength (flying) comes a huge weakness