American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

The new ag will also recuse himself based on bias against the investigation

The clown shoes republicans throwing themselves at trumpism is the death of conservatism

Whitaker had previously said that just cutting funding would be sufficient to throttle the probe. That then makes the stomp-out the GOP took in NY much more important, since Dem’s are in a position to have a back-up plan. Plus the House probably rightfully should be keeping the President in line to whatever extent possible. Calling the press the enemy of the people, for example, seems like something that should not be cool with any party.

538 was saying that the current party is simply post-policy: the actual policy details no longer matter. I’ll go half a step further and say it’s just anger and bile. That ties in neatly with ““conservative”” people here being ultra pissy when we put a hammer down on shitty behavior. The fiscally conservative Paul Ryan’s tenure should kinda be viewed as a betrayal of his own ideals. I don’t know what compelling conservative is going to come forth and reclaim the party, but they need to move on from the Trump era damned quickly based upon the demographics coming out of the election so far.

shower thought of the day: the reason the GOP is against free college for all is because they know that they would be destroying their own base

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ITT:

Repugs crying about unsportsmanlike behavior, whilst trying to grab the opponent’s stick, and getting out footsied four times while the other guy is only doing a late button check.

Am I happy about acosta getting the boot? Yes. Am I content with the platform under which he’s biting the boot for? No, even if at the end of the day they’re really just using the same tactics the left has been using, I’m not content with it. Should be painfully obvious that acosta being an errant douche was the primary reason though.

“don’t be a dick”

Okay, so it’s cool to make blanket statements about Trump supporters, to make labels, to straight up dedicate an entire post to underhanded uninspired slander, but having a different opinion makes me or “insert name” a dick? Sure, tell yourself whatever you need to. But from where I’m standing, the bans on pedoviejo, Nancelius, Starhammer, Shaft wasn’t banned but took a warning as if it were and bounced, ParryAll (he gone), ElderGOD, truendymion raise a bit of a red flag for me. Almost as if your definition of being a dick is basically someone who doesn’t fully buy into radical left-winged rhetoric.

“don’t be a dick” Dafuq outta here, there has been so much underhanded pussyfooted one-liner bullshit from your camp that I have a hard time believing that this is the compass you’re actually abiding by

I dropped in to see at least some kind of back and forth between the two camps and get a kick out of it, now this thread devolved into a complete circle jerk. And I’m really not even learning anything new here at all

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This clown’s (re-elected!) talking points are the exact same blueprint as everything the party has been saying about this caravan and immigration in general. I don’t know how there’s “similar” tactics on the other side unless the Left is significantly contributing to the mass dehumanization of white people which, uh, lol.

If emotional appeal is the tactic you’re describing, then I think it’s fair to say that if an “emotional appeal” regarding people fleeing war-torn and violent countries (that we helped destabilize) asking for legal asylum is supposed to be equivalent to:

Then I would say the argument is inherently in bad faith and will lead nowhere.

There’s an argument to be made that the immigration system is catastrophically bad and in need of reform because it’s really hard to get people in and naturalized so they can contribute (even though a lot of them already pay taxes). But I don’t see how the argument that this caravan is just a bunch of free-loaders looking for a handout is stooped in anything but rhetoric from known racists and white nationalists.

pedo: was asked to stop calling everybody f–s and typing while trying to kill people, err driving.

nancelius: was just interested in being a dick as opposed to contributing. had been asked to stop doing that repeatedly now. note the contributions from that account are all parasitical.

star: was asked to tone down the anti-women bullshit in the MGTOW thread, got upset when he did it again and was told to stop again. It’s almost all dudes here. Don’t ruin a MTGOW thread by taking it that far. Repeatedly after being told not to.

parryall: series of crazy PMs to me, was told to stop. not actually banned just got angry about being angry

eldergod: was told to stop ranting about shit like hitler having done the right thing by killing the liberal jews. banned for stating that he let a woman get raped because he didn’t like her religion

true: asked to stop being a dick, specifically going on at length about azure being a jew-hating murderer.

I believe that fairly answers every question you raised. If you have concerns about the behavior of a member, use the Report button like a normal human being instead of expecting mods to be psychic. If you have concerns about the handling of a concern, PM the mod in question or the admins (such as myself).

Not really trying to blow anybody up, but none of the above should be a surprise. If you have concerns, PM me. I love everybody, just trying to keep things from going too far off the rails. We let this thread live for a while because most people were able to post in it without losing their nut. But some people just can’t/couldn’t, and that wrecks a lot of things for a lot of people. As mentioned previously this thread is ending in the near future given that this election cycle is almost over. :+1:

Okay, so it’s cool to make blanket statements about (politician) supporters, to make labels, to straight up dedicate an entire post to underhanded uninspired slander,

Edited for fairness. In order: Don’t like it but probably livable unless you’re going off the rails, shitty behavior, and … shitty behavior. Most of the concern comes from attacking other users at length. We put in the Pertho One Punch rule a long goddamned time ago: “have your say and move the fuck on”.

I think there’s a way to Ignore peoples. Wish it was more obvious for people.

I watch a lot of CNN

Nancelius isn’t actually an alt and I know this for a fact because it got sorted out in one of the discords.

Still can’t believe Steve King got reelected although that shouldn’t be a surprise I guess.

I do not understand how anyone can support Trump taking potshots at reporters, effectively at the First Amendment itself.

It is literally: “You disagree with me? Enemy of the people. Next question. What? You disagree with how I treated that other reporter? Enemy of the people. And you are bad at your job, too.”

I mean, that actually happened.

It is nuts.

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LOL. The White House video put out was doctored to make it look like a karate chop. The administration is so incompetent they thought that it could just slide by? Or they just don’t care. Probably the latter, because as Trump said, he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and his followers would still slob his knob.

I would argue Jim Acosta IS bad at his job if he’s continually having this issue. They were looking for reasons to suspend his pass and he gave them what they wanted. Which isn’t to say this isnt a bad thing, but Nixon was actively squashing stories about Vietnam using the Justice Department to do it, and we haven’t reached that point. If it were anyone but Jim Acosta I’d be surprised but Jim brought tis one on himself.

Oh, absolutely. You support the guy who openly brags about assaulting women. I drew that fucking line a long time ago, you fucking douchebag.

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lol America is so fucked up.

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“First they came for Acosta, and I did not care, because I do not favor CNN…”

Leftists here ignore the 90 minutes of questions that Trump already took from the press. Ignore that he wanted to continue taking questions from other news outlets. And ignore that Acosta refused to give up and let that intern do her job. But again, you leftists are now saying its the womens fault. I guess it isn’t misogyny if you do it right?

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Fixed, thanks. Not any better.

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It’s the BS argument that they suspended his pass because he “assaulted” that intern. They could have just said the real reason and kept it moving; similar to how Jeff Sessions resignation letter started.

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I’m listening to his press conference from yesterday and I simply cannot comprehend how anybody in this country can be for this president. He is just the biggest asshole and douchebag, regardless of his politics. No wonder the entire rest of the world is LOL’ing at us.

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That Jim Acosta has been harassing white house staff for the last 20 months? Bringing up non-topics like the Russia investigation again when there isn’t anything there. And that he should have kept his hands to himself. #metoo Or is it because she was a white house staff for a republican that she doesn’t get the benefit of #metoo? Typical misogynist.

Looks like Trumps been grabbing himself by the pussy.

Owning the libs seems to be a platform that works for trolls.

Sensible republicans need to take back sanity

I wonder if repubs will back a different candidate come 2020 promoting sanity and bipartisanship

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