American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

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See. Retards.
Can’t actually engage in discussion with people, can only post memes.

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For some reason being famous means you don’t get to have an opinion.

Guess I’m gonna have to gas my wife and son and 1/4 of me needs to go to Auschwitz.

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You’ll notice too the ā€œsafe opinionsā€ are things like healthcare for all, civil rights, not caging children, not having cops shoot blacks, not blaming the world’s problems on jews, etc.

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Who gave them their opinion…

Meanwhile:

This is probably the dumbest scandal I’ve ever heard in my life.

Who gave you yours?

What a stupid non-point

Hell no.

I can’t see a worse country than one run exclusively by former military.

P.S.

Starship Troopers was satire.

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1000 to 1 odds the persons offering the bribes are not women.

So it’s just a coincidence that they are all in lockstep and anyone who dissents is blacklisted…
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No it’s not SMDH. It’s a vision for a liberal republic that instills civic virtue in it’s citizens. Not unlike Israel and Singapore.

It is satire.

Nothing that batshit insane can be anything but.

If Heinlein, DID believe what he was shovelling in that book, then SMDH, at Heinlein.

For a gifted writer, he had some insane ideas.

Because the society in Starship Troopers is just plain awful - even as a cult.

I see this system having many advantages over our current system.

  1. A more informed class of voters. Because Citizenship is a privilege, not a right, the competency tests help weed out the complete idiots and morons. Also, if you have to work for the right to vote, you will be more likely to study the candidates in order to use your vote better. That which is free is valued little, but that which costs much is valued highly.

  2. An easy way out of the draft for those who either have moral objections to fighting. Instead of becoming draft dodgers or fleeing the country or having your parents pull strings for you, you can simply opt out of the responsibility of a Citizen.

  3. Those who already don’t vote (because of apathy or whatever) would have fewer responsibilities. They wouldn’t have to worry about being drafted, or spending time for jury duty.

  4. Perhaps, in the old style of the citizen-militia, only Citizens would be allowed to own and carry military class weaponry and would receive training in its use when they become Citizens. This would prevent random morons from owning extremely dangerous weapons.

You actually believe this?

ā€œTo permit irresponsible authority is to sell disaster.ā€
― Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

Sounds like a billboard for NOT letting an exclusive group of warlike cocksuckers exclusively run things.

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You should read the book
ā€œBoth for practical reasons and for mathematically verifiable moral reasons, authority and responsibility must be equal - else a balancing takes place as surely as current flows between points of unequal potential. To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy. The unlimited democracies were unstable because their citizens were not responsible for the fashion in which they exerted their sovereign authority… other than through the tragic logic of history… No attempt was made to determine whether a voter was socially responsible to the extent of his literally unlimited authority. If he voted the impossible, the disastrous possible happened instead - and responsibility was then forced on him willy-nilly and destroyed both him and his foundationless temple.ā€
― Robert A. Heinlein,

I have read the book.

I disagree with most everything in it, subtext included, if no allowance for satire.

Soldiers are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice in order to protect their fellow countrymen. It’s exclusive, yes, but the only prerequisite is YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO DIE FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN.

BTW I’d rather have veterans who know the human cost of war rather than elites with no concept of sacrifice.