Honda’s Jab headbutt has start up where it’s not going to beat a meaty air FB on start up. Trust me when I tell you that. Not 100% imo. Splash maybe but not jab headbutt.
None of the other character you mentioned have enough invincible frames to hit him cleanly on a well spaced air fb’s imo. We need to test this in a room. I’ll get on and use the charge and 360 characters and someone else use dp characters just to test this shit out.:wonder:
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I’m about to get online jeff. Hit me up when you see me get on hd remix so we can test this against honda, blanka, and geif.
ok going on now
if you get hit by the tiger knee straight up fireball do you have time to just walk toward and under him or are they in hit stuff the entire time before he lands… because it seems like getting hit by the fireball that low to the ground you would be able to get out of it
Blanka, Sagat, Cammy, Gief owned hard. Will test more later. Honda you have to mix up up, he can get out but easy. Same with Guile. Im sure Rog is screwed also. They cant dpm jump, press a button, nothing. Fireball beats everything. Cammy can knuckle thru, but if she does akuma get a free dp/throw ON REACTION. Easy. Gief cant do jack, green hand doesnt even come out, if you lariet the fireball hits and you get a free sweep.
No the ones I mentioned are screwed, me and shin tested it just now. No matter what they do they just get hit.
Did you guys make sure you did reversals for all the specials? Cuz reversals have additional invulnerable frames. I’m on right now jeff, invite me and we’ll test it out some more. I just tried it myself in training mode and it doesn’t look as solid a trap to me.
Yes they were (some) reversals and trust me it beat everything, my thumb is dead though, later Ill show you.
just tested it with rsx. sagat has no way of gettin out. i did 3 reversals in a row. srry but ban this nigga akuma immediately!!!
I been up for like 987987345 hours lol
Yea we just tested this. T-Hawk has one of the best :hp: :dp: in the game. He get’s through that shit the easiest imo. Sagat has nothing that can get through it. It’s not broken, but it’s very good against any character without an invincible dp move or teleport like sim. I still think your timing was kinda off jeff. There was sometimes against honda when I couldn’t move for 3 reps of the fb trap. I would be stuck in block stun. It’s easier with a dp because you can spam that more while you have to be precise with charge moves.
You might have to get a little bit closer with your air fb’s Sometimes you were too far back imo. If you are on sagats stage you need to have your starting foot directly over the rock while i’m in the right hand corner. I think that is the correct distance that trap works. I don’t know what button of fb you should use.:nunchuck:
If you want to try it again I will have my mic on so I can tell you where to stand to start the trap. It within sweep range. It think if I block 1 ducking :mp: while you are close in the corner that will give you the proper spacing for the trap.
Hp on Sagat , but i cant do it to well on pad, mp on cammy, mp on blanka, mp on gief. My reaction time is off but you can just throw cammys spin knuckle.
I been up for like 40 hours now of course I was off lol. Cammy has the only chance to get out of the 4, but still pretty screwed since you can dp/throw who spin knucke on reaction.
Dude wtf?!?!?!?!:wtf::wtf: Take your ass to sleep zombie hd remix crack head man.:looney::looney::looney::looney:
Oh yea add deejay to the ownage list also. The only thing he can do is the super if he has it before you get locked down. I still thinks there’s a way to lock them down in block stun. Can’t test shit with someone with thumbs that are about to fall off and hasn’t slept in almost 2 days?!?! :wtf: I don’t see it being a broken tactic. It’s just 1 more thing to add to HD remix akuma’s powerful arsenal. There is no 1 thing that makes akuma debatable broken or not. It’s the sum of his parts that make him silly imo, but I’ve only played a few akuma’s that knew how to FB and :dp: trap correctly and the rest I kill for free.
T Hawk had corner traps on half the cast in the original ST that were basically unbreakable almost, so I still don’t get the OMG he can’t get out of the corner shit. Lots of characters had lockdown corner shit in ST. Zangief vs Bison? Dhalsim vs Vega Chun type stuff was silly? T Hawk vs Bison? Just don’t get hit by it.
The thing is, t hawk was shitty anyways.
This is like taking ryu, and giving him an unbeatable corner trap
Yeah true, but Akuma really didnt need a corner lockdown. Im not making any calls, Im just pointing out what I found. Easier said than done to avoid that stuff. Im sure Bison/Chun can’t get out of this lockdown either, haven’t tested that yet though. That would make 6 characters he straight up ownz for free in the corner. Not just a character or two. I don’t even know if Ryu’s dp will go through it, I have to test more later, time to sleep for 14-22 hours.
The funny thing is T-Hawks :hp: DP has to be the best in hd remix next to akuma’s :lp: :dp: and ken’s :mp: :dp:. I beat that shit clean with T -hawk for counter damage!!!:nunchuck::nunchuck:
:lol: Spoken like a true ST og. lol
Thanks for indulging me Jeff. Yeah, Akuma’s already close to broken and we’re just adding to the list of things that (may) need to be patched. Jeff, blazeu and I just tested out Fei Long, Cammy and Sagat.
I wanted to test out Cammy and Sagat cuz that shit was suspect to me, but yeah, they get locked down hard and even the fastest reversal Thrust Kick gets stuffed by AFB. Reversal Knuckle also gets stuffed by Jab TK AFB > Fierce TK AFB. If it’s 2 Jab TK AFBs, the Knuckle will come out but Akuma’s already landed by then and can stuff it himself or block it. Fierce Knuckle doesn’t escape behind Akuma like I thought it would, he can still stuff it himself, thanks to it’s long startup time.
Sagat’s Uppercut gets stuffed right at the point where his invincibility ends (just before his hand is outstretched, the 2nd hitting frame I believe). His first hitting frame is low to the ground, but Akuma’s in the air doing the 2nd AFB and therefore it misses. I tried jumping back attacks, but that only works outside of the corner, in the corner the 2nd AFB stuffs him and Cammy as soon as they’re off the ground, and before their jump attack comes out. Pretty solid trap.
Fei should be able to escape with Short Flying Kick. It goes without saying that all Supers should be able to escape this lockdown (except maybe Honda, but he’s got Short Splash already).
I didn’t test any other chars with Jeff, but I would like to test the rest of the cast, preferably with a stick (I’m using pad). Theoretically, I agree that Zangief and Blanka will get locked down along with Cammy and Sagat, but Dee Jay and others should be able to stuff or trade with Akuma. If anybody’s good with Akuma’s TK AFB, add me as I’m on right now.
make a video pls.