After 1 month of joystick use I still can't get used to it

u mad?

he’s not mad, just bragging his pre 09 userdate in a topic that is not meant for pre 09 members :wink:

Rest your lower palm on the stick, grip the ball top with your thumb, index and middle finger, your ring and pinky should be free and have a wine glass sort of grip on the bottom of the ball top.

Make it a point not to remove your hand from the stick. Always maintain a grip. Practice dashing all of the time, even if you lose. Get in training and pull something off 10 or 20 times on each side.

I had the same problem when i made the trainsition to stick.
After a while i changed my grip and now im using the “Wineglass” hold. Where you put the stick in between you pinky and “the other finger that i cant remember the english name for”.
Its way more comfortable and i have improved my game alot. Im still not 100% on my execution but i improve every day. Youtube some and you can find good videos of different holds. Then its up to you to what you think is the most comfortable. Good luck and keep on practising.

It’s all in the wrist, Don’t use your fingers for the whole motion, Let your wrist do the movement whilst your fingers do the guiding.
That’s pretty much the only help someone could give you.

Fixed. There is this guy who calls himself OneHandedTerror…

It’s kind of like learning the piano. You just need to repeat motions ALOT, over and over and over. It relies heavily on muscle memory, that is programming the muscles in your hands to perform moves when you think about them, instead of making the connection in your head first and lose precious moments.

That’s how say, a classical pianist can play a Beethoven piece without looking at the keyboard. Or how you improvise without hitting the wrong notes. “Practice your scales” would be similar to “Practice your FADC Ultra”.

Arcade stick use needs muscle memory too.

I used a pad for the first 300 hours I played the game. When I got a stick though I felt very discouraged by how much harder it was. The square gate I felt made it so hard to do the motions but because I knew all the top Japanese players used square gate that pushed me to keep trying.

I’ve been playing on a stick now for 50 hours and feel i’m much better than I was with a pad. It just takes time so don’t get discouraged.

He does shit with chun that I can’t even do, I need to know if it’s his left or right hand he’s using.

What price are your friends willing to let said sticks go for, if they haven’t sold them already?
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This. Cheap sticks are actually counter-productive for newbies to the community.

Edit: Because of all this heat, that should read “Cheap sticks might even be
=/= " you can’t learn on a cheap stick"

Top quality parts don’t mean a God damned thing to a newbie and everyone knows it. I think if you’re going to buy a top of the line stick, you should be at least committed enough to not give up because things don’t go your way. How is using an HRAP or an EX2 counter-productive for somebody new? Outside of button malfunctions (which can happen to any piece of hardware), how is this going to keep somebody from learning?

Ohh wait, we’re going by 09er logic here, right? You can ONLY learn on the EXACT setup that DAIGO USES!1!!!1!:annoy:

God forbid I suggest anything but the HIGHEST QUALITY EQUIPMENT for somebody with a 50/50 chance at leaving the thing in a closet after they move on to the next gaming fad.

I think his point is that there is no point buying a $100,000 Steinway grand piano for someone who doesn’t know how to play yet.

Thank you.

Obviously, it wouldn’t be a wise investment to buy a $100,000 Piano just because you PLANNED on learning how to play. Where are you when you decide that it’s too difficult, or you just aren’t interested at all?

I’ve also said in another thread: You will not be able to appreciate the Sanwa parts any more or less than anything else once you’re just beginning. If you learn how to play and feel 100% comfortable on a mid-quality or modded stick, something slick like a TE will be appreciated much more.

Think of Hori sticks as the type you can be reckless with. You’re going to mash a bit once you begin anyway, don’t have to worry about being hard on shitty parts, right?

Well, for committed people, why not get an expensive stick. The difference is negligible in cost if you’re serious about the game.

While I do agree about the grand piano relation, yes… because the cost of a grand piano is huge versus the one you can comfortably fit in the corner of your room. As a beginner, you’ll want to restrict yourself to something cheaper that you can hammer like there’s no tomorrow as Grimm Demize has said. Also in terms of cost, the ratio between a grand piano and a beginner’s keyboard versus TE:EX2 is much larger.

If I’m not being clear enough for the elites on this board, it’s not having ‘the same thing as pro’s’, but more in realizing if you have good hardware, it’s less “blaming your controller” and more yourself if you can’t throw a simple hado. The point of having a TE isn’t to show off… to be fair, mods look better. It just removes frustration of attributing failure to the controller and makes said “omg i have a te stick noob” realize their exact description.

Obviously if they’re not serious… they’ve wasted what could’ve been 2-3 more games for HaloPlayer1337.

Thanks for 09 flame, I appreciate it. Nothing was directed at Grimm Demize, just playing off what he said as a tongue-in-cheek comment that I obviously have no right in.

Obviously you’ve never played somebody who utterly FREAKED OUT because they lost, and actually SAID “But I have a TE stick!”. Equipping casual players with cabinet quality parts gives a certain segment of that particular demographic some idea that just because they’ve got a good stick, they’re suddenly godlike players with “Daigo-like” execution. This thread isn’t the best example, but I’ve seen COUNTLESS threads on SRK over the course of this year where people bitch and piss and moan just because the stick didn’t make them into Top 8 at Evo material overnight.

When I could actually afford a TE stick, they were sold out because hordes of casual players bought them all. Now that I can’t afford to spend that type of money on an arcade stick, there are people willing to sell them. Hence why I’m so salty when it comes to people with little to no arcade stick experience buying up the best sticks, then in turn complaining about them.

Thanks for pointing out that I haven’t played IRL ragers, because I haven’t :rofl:!
Your argument’s well worded bud, I see where you’re coming from.

Casual players have to include the ebay scammers too. I respect the tight budget situation you’re in cus I’m a student and it’s exactly the same reason I don’t have one myself, or have even seen one IRL. There’s quite a big difference when I training mode with my cheap stick compared to the arcade cabs in the London Trocadero. I should meet your friends and beat them on keyboard!:encore:

On topic: 1 month is definitely not enough time to say you’re good at stick. Grip is what’s comfortable, the rest is practice. Forum rules state that this thread shouldn’t even exist anyhow. /thread

Cheers mate.

Sounds like it’s a good thing you didn’t get one. If you had you would be in a much worse situation with your money now, being out just that much more.

It’s also a good thing that people are buying them then selling them, makes for a big and cheap used market.

I’m a scrub but I bought one because I like to have nice things. The quality is good and I think it’s going to last for quite some time.

You’re better off buying the best then selling it if you don’t end up liking it. It’ll cost you more in the long run if you buy mediocre equipment only to upgrade it later.

I’ve seen it countless times in other fields where people buy subpar equipment then end up being bad at what they’re doing and end up having to spend that money anyway on the right equipment in the end.

(I hope you get your money situation sorted, this is a rough time for a lot of people, I’m personally fine for now but the layoff threat is in full effect at my job so I know where you’re coming from)

After using the stick for 2 months my execution is now better than it was with a controller. I main Balrog so I like how the square gate helps with his special moves but I quit playing Ryu because its now a pain to execute all those quarter circle rotations.

To get good with the stick I just practised every day for 1-2 hours doing what combos I was having a hard time with. After that I tried to try using those combos on players in championship mode.

Another thing I always neglect to bring up when I flame people who complain about sticks:

Just remember, you guys actually have the benefit of training mode thanks to console sticks. I remember how scarce decent sticks were for consoles back when I first made the switch from pad to stick (2002-2003, so we’re pre Anniversary Stick here), and how I had to actually play under fire at MvC2 in an arcade just to learn how to properly execute basic moves.

Do what the above poster said, and just stick to training mode at first. Make sure everything comes out properly, and don’t go into online or play against actual people before you’re comfortable…it’s even MORE frustrating that way.

I can’t really understand how people could afford to train at arcades, must be hella expensive to keep jamming coins into the machine several days a week.