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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><b><a href="/profile/7446/Wasted">Wasted</a> said:</b></div>
<div class=“QuoteText”><b>ADD/ADHD is complete bullshit. Most kids diagnosed ARE lazy.</b><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Even so, once a kid finds something (or things) they’re genuinely passionate about, they take the time to pay attention. Use that as a medium for learning instead of blaming teachers.</b></div></div>
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<b><br></b><div style=“font-weight: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-weight: normal;”>I hate to say it, but what I have isn’t made up</div></div>
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<br>Of course your herpes is real.<br>
<blockquote class=“Quote”><a href=“http://forums.shoryuken.com/profile/1497/OmNiExiZt”>OmNiExiZt</a> said:<br><br>I tried meditation a long time ago for the sake of trying it out just to see what it was all about. I’d need to find somewhere really isolated to do that. Instead of focusing on myself and my mind, I start thinking of other things I could or should be doing instead of just sitting there. I may give it another try, but I know it’s going to be tough. I might look into one of those religious styles just to get an idea of… how I should meditate? Like what should I try to focus on and do. You know like do I concentrate on making a certain breathing pattern or focus on a specific thought or somethng like that.<br></blockquote><br>I did Buddhist Chan (Zen) meditation for about two years. In Chan, you sit and cross your legs in the yoga ‘lotus’ position (half or full, depending on what you can do), but Zen just has you sit on your legs (painful, but not as much as lotus). When you start to cramp up from lack of blood flow, you’ll need to will yourself to hold it for X minutes (ideally an hour). You develop focus by blocking out the pain and calming your mind (what they refer to as “focusing on nothing”), or try to distract yourself with a breathing or counting technique (doesn’t work in the long run). If you just sit quietly and comfortably in a chair, you’ll be aware of your thoughts, but you’ll have no means of ignoring them. Although other activities like exercising can have the same effect, it’s not quite the same because the body doesn’t become exhausted in meditation (just mentally fatigued). Likewise, you can get ‘in the zone’ playing video games, but all your doing is focusing your attention on an external stimuli. Once you take that away and are in, say, a school situation, your brain still wants that stimulation. <br><br>Religious meditation places will probably be the best setting, but then you have to deal with the spiritual stuff, frauds, politics, etc. I would suggest yoga as an alternate, but if the place is too commercial, I don’t think they’d have you hold a position to the point of being uncomfortable, which is the real trick to meditation imo.<br><br>edit: Oh but I’m not ADHD. I just felt it helped me focus in general. <br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/731/maxx">maxx</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>muthafucker video games is my a.d.d support group<br></div>
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<br>i’m the exact opposite, video games are my #1 enabler, and i have to really force myself to put them down or not pick them up. I literally end up zoning out for hours then realizing i’m terribly late for something.<br><br>add/adhd are woefully misunderstood, guess it can’t really be helped, between not being diagnosed at all to being a catch-all for random mental problems doc doesn’t understand (ie. overdiagnosed like crazy) and then over-medicated (because profits… duh) it’s understandable where the attitude of a fake disorder comes from, but i can say with certainty that it is something i have struggled with all my life, before i was even really aware of what was going on.<br>
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for people who have been diagnosed and believe they have it…<br><br>is it really so bad that its worth being prescribed amphetamines? and what about the problem of tolerance? is it just a constant process of upping doses and/or switching drugs?<br><br>I remember an episode of frontline that covered psychoactive prescription drugs. it was very sad to see the children who have permanent problems like tourettes style ticks due to these drugs :(<br>
Is ADD real?<br><br>Maybe maybe not. Nigga’s need to stop being so fucking stupid and get some discipline. <br><br>Should they be given children psychoactive compounds that affect the central nervous system and screws with brain functions?<br><br>Absolutely not. Just like they rationalize that kids shouldn’t do psychoactive drugs because it hurts “normal” brain development, what makes amphetamine class salts any different? Because some dumb ass with a degree in psychology or in a white coat so? Only an idiot would go that far.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>Is ADD real?<br><br>Maybe maybe not. Nigga’s need to stop being so fucking stupid and get some discipline. <br><br>Should they be given children psychoactive compounds that affect the central nervous system and screws with brain functions?<br><br>Absolutely not. Just like they rationalize that kids shouldn’t do psychoactive drugs because it hurts “normal” brain development, what makes amphetamine class salts any different? Because some dumb ass with a degree in psychology or in a white coat so? Only an idiot would go that far.<br></div>
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My nephew was diagnosed with ADHD, and he acts more fucked up when he’s on the pills they prescribed to him compared to when he’s not. <div><br></div><div><img src=“http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-5_qs3NqRfRXeKwVm5uVmlpF2lq9sHtaD-gQ0cc3J1ffdvrBs”><br></div>
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The drugs they give these kids are like cocaine and have an effect on their brain development. Lazy parents think drug to control kid, then they get their kid completely reliant on the drug.
Ignorance and laziness
<p>Did those of you who tried medication notice any changes right away or did someone have to tell you about your behavior?</p>
You need to change your dietary habits before you start trying to take drugs that change your brains behavior.<br>
My diet is pretty consistent. I only eat fast food maybe twice a month if that. My wife is all about nutrition so she makes sure that we have a balanced meal. I’m not bouncing off the wall are anything like that. I feel like either I don’t care or I’m overly impulsive.
Check for food intolerance as well. <br><br>What is it that you don’t care about and how are you impulsive? <br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/907/angelpalm">angelpalm</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Check for food intolerance as well. <br><br>What is it that you don’t care about and how are you impulsive? <br></div>
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Well I am G6PD. But the list of foods that I’m not supposed to eat is crazy. I think I’d have less options than a vegan. As for not caring, If someone isn’t instructing me or talking about something I specifically find interesting, they either get tuned or I’m talking back to them in my head. There always seems to be holes in the conversation after they are done and I have to ask them to repeat things. It’s really bad. Dependening on how serious someting is, I have to repeat you in my head so I don’t miss anything. I’m forgetful as shit if something doesn’t intrest me or is not directly important to me. I’m the friend that’s usually late to the movies if we are going as a group. Why, maybe I don’t respect you which is not the case because I don’t treat my friends like straight shit. But I care about my needs before others a lot of times. It makes me seem selfish. </p><p>I’m passive aggressive to damn near everybody because I most often will think that you’ll be ok. Which you will, but that shows a lack of respect depending on the circumstances. As for being impulsive, I act often on different things with out thinking them all the way through. Then part of the way through my task, I end up doing shit on the fly. It’s difficult for me to follow someone else’s instructions because I’ll jump ahead assuming I know what to do next and end up messing something up. I also have a tendency to talk without thinking and I’ve said some mean shit to people. I can be rude and not even know it sometimes. Of course when people talk to me about it and I take a second to think about it and realize what I’ve done, I apologize profusely because I know that I’ve wronged them. </p><p>I also seem to have no emotion about a lot of shit I should be reacting to. People wonder why I’m not happy about something or why I never seem to get mad. <br></p>
Lol so your wife thinks pills will cure you of being an asshole. How about she lose her gag reflex instead. At least that shit is free.
If you do take up meditation, stay away from the traditional approach because their perspective is from a different time and culture, a lot of which is geared towards monks living in monasteries amongst other issues. As to how-to, it’s very simple: find a place you won’t be disturbed and where you feel comfortable, find something to focus your concentration on (the most widely used is your breath). Assuming you’re focusing on your breathing, commit to fixing your attention on just that and nothing else. Don’t try to control your breath or force it in any way, just let it be and keep your attention there. When first starting out you’ll be distracted and your focus will break constantly by everything from your thoughts, things in the environment, sensations from your body, everything but what you should be doing. When this happens just acknowledge it and go back to focusing on your breath. You’ll become less and less distracted over a period of consistent practice. When first starting out keep it short by 5 - 10 minutes of meditation, and up it by another 5 - 10 minutes once you becomes comfortable with it. <br><br>This isn’t a quick fix obviously. It’s very simple and it’s very difficult, especially in the beginning. But if you do decide to try it and stick with it, it can change you for the better in numerous ways which no man-made pill can accomplish (look up research on meditating monks or a book called Zen and the Brain.) <br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/4897/pherai">pherai</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>for people who have been diagnosed and believe they have it…<br><br>is it really so bad that its worth being prescribed amphetamines? and what about the problem of tolerance? is it just a constant process of upping doses and/or switching drugs?<br><br>I remember an episode of frontline that covered psychoactive prescription drugs. it was very sad to see the children who have permanent problems like tourettes style ticks due to these drugs :(<br></div>
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<div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I would never take any drug for for my ADD. I don’t believe that anyone needs medication to handle this condition. They need training.</span></font></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>And I think that’s part of reason certain people don’t believe it exists. When you have all these kids (and now adults) taking medication for ADD/ADHD, yet these people seem like normal people, people will say it’s bullshit. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>And in a way, they’re right. ADD is constantly misdiagnosed, thanks to helicopter parents who want an instant fix for all their kids problem and psychiatrists who either can’t handle telling these parents that the right way isn’t going to be instant or are just prescription-happy.</span></font></div>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>I was diagnosed with ADHD in 6th grade I think. I don’t remember how severe my case was counted as but the pills were really strong. So strong in fact that they made concentrating in school even harder because I couldn’t stay awake, but eventually stopped taking them by 8th grade. Those pills fucked up my sleeping habits permanently because even to this day I never want to go to sleep. When I do go to sleep, no matter how long whether its 5, 8, 10, or 12 hours it never feels like enough sleep.</div>
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Man this is me. I was diagnosed with ADD when i was in elementary and took pills till i was in HS and sleeping is a real chore for me. I never feel tired until I’m about to pass out, and then i sleep for like 12 hours and feel tired as fuck when i wake. <br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href=“http://forums.shoryuken.com/profile/4897/pherai”>pherai</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>for people who have been diagnosed and believe they have it…<br><br>is
it really so bad that its worth being prescribed amphetamines? and what
about the problem of tolerance? is it just a constant process of upping
doses and/or switching drugs?<br><br>I remember an episode of frontline
that covered psychoactive prescription drugs. it was very sad to see
the children who have permanent problems like tourettes style ticks due
to these drugs :(<br></div>
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I believe I have ADD but I take no medication for it. I smoke a lot of
weed tho…For enjoyment sake but I do think it helps me when i gotta
focus on getting shit done, I can just put in my headphones and go do
it. <br><br>Flag is completely right. the true fix is training, and learning how to control the problem. Think of it as bettering yourself, becoming stronger. Your working out your mind much like you work out your body at the gym. Medication won’t give you that “Muscle build” it will just make you dependant on the medication for the rest of your life, a never ending bill looming over you head. If the side effects don’t worry you (They should) then that constant, endless drain on your wallet should. <br><br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/180/Zero">Zero</a> said:</div><div class=“QuoteAuthor”><span style=“font-size: small;”>And in a way, they’re right. ADD is constantly misdiagnosed, thanks to helicopter parents who want an instant fix for all their kids problem and psychiatrists who either can’t handle telling these parents that the right way isn’t going to be instant or are just prescription-happy.</span></div>
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And then of course, there’s the parents that get their kids diagnosed to take their ritalin instead of the kid.<div><br></div><div>Honestly, I’ve seen genuine cases of ADD, and some of them probably need some kind of medicine. And then of course, I’ve seen some where there is no way I could ever believe the kid has ADD, he’s just acting like a spoiled little shit.</div>
@Sovi3t get the pills man. You ain’t gamed till you’ve gamed on Adderall. <div><br></div><div>I was diagnosed at an early age and they’ve been filling me with pills since I was 6. It used to give me lazer-focus in class but now it just fucks with me. Break regimen for a week and the next pill will fucking wreck you. Awake for 2 days, not feeling hungry, sexual issues…not a fun ride</div>
I start 10mg of Aderall tomorrow. I’ll give you the pill by pill play. Lets see if this will transform me.
