My Suggestions for Abel:
J,QCB+K Air Wheel KickSo his 2nd ultra is breathless and it’s a charge grab.
I’m still wondering if it has startup… but the dash forward looks pretty bad ass. Probably has insane active frames.
Breathless
Ultra II - Breathless
I believe the description in the command list said this:
qcf, qcf KKK (Hold KKK to charge timing, cancel charge with P)
Videos:
Connects after Sagat jumps in: [media=youtube]6XzWkGGHHyM#t=1m43s[/media]
Whiffs Gouken with cr.fp xx roll > Breathless: [media=youtube]hyyAkgsBYS4#t=2m11s[/media]
Absorbs Gouken’s Gohadouken with super armor (focus attack style absorption): [media=youtube]hyyAkgsBYS4#t=3m52s[/media]
To me this just seems like an anti-jump in/mixup ultra. If they jump in, you do the ultra and hold the charge until they hit the ground and let go, with the fallback of being able to absorb their jump in attack with the super armor. I’m guessing it probably won’t auto-correct against cross-ups, so it’s still not great anti-air.
The ability to cancel the ultra seems like you’ll be able to use the same mindgames as a focus attack with this. I’m looking forward to seeing some ultras baited with this one.
It looks pretty useful, but the move it’s self after the dash looks pretty lame. Why the hell does he spin them up in the air? Spinning doesn’t hurt people, lol, especially when you’re just throwing them at thin air. And then he rolls with them on the floor and just kicks them out like ken’s back throw =/ I think I’m probably still going to use heartless.
Is it a grab or a trigg like his Super?
people are so fucking whiny it’s unbelievable.
Sure, it could do without the spinning, but then where is the fun in that, Abel is a character who consistently shows he can pick up anyone and twirl them around like a piece of ribbon before slamming them down.
I approve of this Ultra (not that I can actually change it if I disapproved anyway), it could have been weirder like Akuma’s Massive Hurricane Kick Ultra (first kick of Akumas second Ultra is cool, but the “Goukicopter” after wards looks weird to me).
I’d like to know just how quick the start up is. If it’s really quick it could be used during times of resets and mix ups for a raw ultra.
I like the spinning but really, but when why not hit them out of the air with something afterwards (like asuper wheel kick) instead of just catching them and rolling into a wall. It just didn’t flow very well for me. All I’m saying is I prefer his current one. That’s all, haha, I can’t believe that guy above you had such a hissy fit.
I havn’t played abel for long, so I don’t know anything about him, but im pretty excited that his new ultra seems pretty usefull. It has armor which is good, and can still be used to counter fireballs (like his first ultra) so that fun stays. If it has a fast startup maybe even counter pokes or w/e, seeing as the range is good. The armor really adds something to the possibilities
I can see it being used against characters with no fireballs
I don’t think this has been posted, but in one of the videos I saw that Abel is getting a safe-on-block CoD, at least for the first hit.
Quick question, does breathless come out fast enough that it can be used similarly like akuma’s raging demon to deep jump ins? Just curious cos when I saw the activation of the ultra I see it has a bit of a start up although I don’t know if that’s because it was being charged or not.
Damn, I was hoping for something that looked cool but Breathless looks really lame.
Confirmed, I’m sticking with his current ultra.
Thanks but no thanks Capcom.
The Ultra has Hyper Armor, so you can probably Ultra any jump in with the distance it gets… but it’s a blockable, I think. So you’re still going to have to time it right.
Yea they increased the safety of CoD pretty much. I think before you could srk reversal it, but now you can’t. A ryu blocked I think and srk’d, but abel could block.
[Could be wrong, havn’t played abel really]
Who cares about the animation of the ultra lol. Its really not bad, compared to like dhalsims or even akuma’s. He spins the dude untill a tornado shows, then backrolls and slams the dude into the wall. Plus it might be more usefull too
So…you don’t want an ultra that does good damage, focus absrobs attacks, and puts your opponent in the corner no matter where you are onscreen?
I came from CoD being safe on block. <333
The new ultra looked wierd, but its instant corner if you land it!
99 problems but spinning ain’t one of em
anyways, if the new ultra does turn out to be a good anti-air ultra, it’ll definitely get some playtime from me
Seriously Breathless is the best new Ultra ever.
Its going to depend on how he can land it.
If its truly superior, then I’ll probably use it. However, I am still VERY VERY disappointed at how lame it looks. Fucking twirly nonsense came from nothing more than supremely lazy animators.
I just love Abel and I’m sad to see him get a new ultra that looks dumb, but if its actually functionally good, then that is nice.
The thing is, I feel like he was GREAT in the ultra department in the first place, so yeah, I may continue to rock that one. I’ll be surprised if the new one can surpass the current one in terms of how easy it is to land it.