5 on 5 EC WC Team Tourney

How can you say row and jmar dont have skillz anymore, and that you think rattana is a better player???

You do know that all 3 of them play in tournys at preppys house all the time and rat gets 3rd basically everytime. No disrespect to r@t but lets set the facts straight.

I don’t think it’s a question of him saying they don’t have the skills anymore, it’s about whether or not they can compete with the best in this current era of Marvel. Personally I think they could, but we won’t know until Ohio. I can kinda see why he says Rattana has the best chance.

Anyway, I’m hoping I can make it to Ohio, dunno if I can get the time off.

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Didn’t say that. I know how good row is esp. w/ exeuction. But he plays too reckless + his team is ass.

Jmar is really good, but he misses too many combos

in marvel, around here at least, missed combo = next game.

i’ve seen results and videos btw.

So then you know what I mean when I said that Rat gets 3rd just about every single tourny when playing against row and jmar.

But yet you said that you think rat has a better chance then row or jmar… Sorry but to me that doesnt make any sense considering row and jmar at this point in time are better than rat just going by results of tournys at preppys.

-How can someone getting 3rd be better than 2 people (row/jmar) getting 1st and 2nd every tourny?

Fuzzy Math-

shud jus take this to pm imho

i understand your logic, clearly, but my opinion is…well, MY OPINION

storm/sent > mag/rocket punch

cali = land of msps

since wen was marvl about math???

msp > everything

all the math in marvel

they should settle this in Ohio

Btw I really dont care what place row or jmar end up in ohio, no matter what happens at the event I well still think they are 2 of the best of the best of the top mvc2 players out there.

I really dont wanna keep talkin bout this, so this is my last post on the subject all can rejoice im sure… ; )

thrax is easier and MUCH more convinient to use than mspeezy.

ive beat down alot of top mspeezy players with my thrax and my thrax is booty.

You suck, just accept it.

Reset/Row/Chunk/Toan and everyone else you’ve beaten 3983940284x are better than you.

Also, random scrubs who cock ride also know more about marvel than you.

Because they just do.

You’re also not on the 5 on 5 because you’ve beaten most of the nicest EC players for money/in tournament.

Also, don’t go 10-9 with arguably one of the best marvel players in the US, or else we’ll make a highlight video and make it look like he owned you free. You can’t hang.

You suck.

Bye

I’ll definitely agree that thrax is easier, it’s easier of a team at the lower level cause it’s raw damage and zoning. Where msp is reset and just making u want to spin the joystick. Thrax is easier lower levels but it’s definitely not better.

santhrax can just whore it out. MSPs can get lucky and dumb especially 2/3 and mirror matches, but overall it still takes more skill. Maybe with perfect play it’s better, but that’s not practical.

Ask low tier guys like vegita x with his rogue/storm/tron, would he rather fight against thrax/matrix, or msp? It’s cause sentinel/cap is the best duo in the game, fly backwards>everything and storm is the biggest whore especially backed by sent.

Imo the only top msp is yipes, soo on his good days, and chris s. Finesse beating justin (the better player) thrax vs msp 10-9, yes it’s a close score, but the better player lost just goes to show you thrax>msp.

If you lose to msp and your main is thrax, you’re simply not as good as the person you lost to.

IMO cable takes more skill.

I saw the vids, you did well but I think you lost to a person you should beat (josh wigfall) 9 times out of 10 but that’s me, maybe i’m sleeping on wigfall. I’m looking forward to seeing you versus row and jmar if they go to ohio. My prediction you>row if you play mss-y and run from cable. Jmar, I think you can beat him if use mss-y and you don’t burn meter hailstorms trying to keepaway when it’s mid game storm/sent-y vs storm/sent-a.

sscap ain’t gonna cut it against them imo.

Of course sent/com crushes all the low tier gimik stuff cause they don’t have a answer for that, MSP puts u in bad situations and once u get hit if opponent has better execution (key word execution, not skill) he will kill you.

I think execution=skill or is very close since execution is the most important thing in marvel, maybe you’re trying say that sentinel has to work hard to keep magnus out and that it takes more skill keeping him out than landing a lucky hit. Imo, sent has all the tools necessary to keep magnus out, so it’s an uphill battle for magneto. If you’re saying msp is better, why not play msp then? You’re a thrax player right? Try playing magnus another good santhrax player and see what happens, you’d probably go back to thrax vs thrax. This is just my opinion, no one is going to convince anyone but this is just the way I see it. At the last ecc evo east 2007 7 of the top 8 players picked thrax at some point.

So training mode scrubs = best marvel players? :stuck_out_tongue: that’s not at all what I’m trying to say but he’s sent has to work very hard to keep mag out and if he gets hit once he is dead. He’s at the mercy of mag, rom into the corner into hyper grab temptest, guard break next character reset, pray u block.

When u start vs mag he has lthe chance to do anything he wants you mess up and call a assist double snap. Why not play msp? Cause I like sent/com and marvels at a point where I’m not going to be the best and I don’t wanna sit in training mode and learn new things, I know thrax now. If I was coming up it def be MSP.

^Fuck sentinel then, start storm against magneto, one cyclops hit equals dead magneto or just rain down the hail. Storm/Sent>mag/rocket punch like potter said and Storm/Psy or storm/sent rocket punch ain’t gonna do shit to sent/cyc or cap/storm unless you’re yipes or jmar/chris s/demon hyo.
Corner tempest can be mashed, it’s a little harder but I think people just choke.

it is pretty hard to get a hit in with msp. especially against a good player with decent defense at the least. further more its just as hard making that one hit hurt. believe it or not msp takes mad execution. and execution is an element of skill. you mess up one infinite or reset you gotta start all over again.

getting hit by a random msp player with random mashes is somewhat relevant to getting hit by random floating short short lightning attack into super into dhc. as well as getting hit by ONE random RH launch by storm which is in my eyes the best/cheapest launch in the game. plus msp is the worst team against unblockables in the game. my grandmother can do unblockables on mag and psy easy.

but both teams require skill of course. ill stop short since this is a neverending dispute and simply a matter of opinions that are divided. so it really doesnt mean shit. btw, right now only msp’s that are too good are fanatiq yipes myself and crizzle with a couple others trailing.

Corner temptest is mashable with everyone but sentinel. Sent falls lower then other characters so it’s close to impossible. I can mash out of temptest easy with anyone else in the corner with sent u probably see it once in 30 tries.

I don’t think I saw it all but once or twice if that at evo. But soo is right it’s just a matter of opinion. I’ll fight any (besides wong/sanford) SSC but I hate fighting ANY msp. And of course execution does account for skill it’s something u have to get.

it would be interesting to see the the best msps take on the best thraxs

Yipes-Soo-Hyo-Fanatiq-Reset-Nelson-Crizzle-Chris S-Toan-Josh Wigfall

Sanford-Justin-Finesse-Chunk-Erik-Potter-Bill-Ruin-Ghengis-Jmar

team format cause rr would take too long…

that sounds fun except i think my thrax is better than my msp

its ALOT of work to get just ONE HIT

and its also ALOT of work to stay away as well.

mahvel is just brutal.

If MSP is fighting Thrax starting Storm I think Thrax has a better chance of winning because Storm has Sent/Cap backing her and all she has to do is DHC Magneto. After that it’s a really uphill fight for Storm/PSY.

Now if you’re talking about MSP vs Sent/Cap that’s a different story. Sent/Cap does have the tools to keep Magneto out but you have to realize that Sent/Cap has to keep Magneto out the entire match. One false move and it’s over. The skill it takes to use Sent/Cap to keep Magneto out the entire match without fucking up is < the skill it takes for Magneto to get a random/lucky hit.

A lot of people would argue that it takes execution to kill Sentinel after you get the hit with Magneto but in all honesty it really doesn’t. If you’re not good enough of a player to do the various infinite’s that Magneto has on Sentinel than you just have bad execution. You don’t even have to reset Sentinel to kill him.

That’s not even taking into account snapping/double snapping. On top of that MSP (or Mag/PSY rather) can put Sent/Cap in situation’s where it isn’t safe for Sentinel to even press any buttons. Sentinel has one of the biggest learning curves in the entire game. I’m sorry but anyone can play Magneto.

I’m not just a Thrax player who complains about Magneto either. I actually use him, and he is extremely easy to use. I also use him in situations where I need to win as well. I don’t really beat the best all the time but you can see my matches on youtube where I switch to MSS to fight Matrix’s Scrub, I switch to MSS to play Mike in the first to 10 we had and I also use MSS against Bryheem.

All in all I think that it’s better to invest your time in Magneto/Magneto teams. Magneto is just a lot more versatile then Sentinel. Sentinel is only good in limited situations where Magneto is good in almost all situations. Toss in all the random/practical cross ups, resets, snaps, double snaps, high damage combos that lead to guessing situations and you get a better character/team in Magneto.

Magneto/Magneto teams > Sent/Sent teams.