3s: Team Makoto Dojo

Master_Chibi · January 15, 2003, 12:01pm

Ok, now that I’ve more or less got Hugo out of the way, how should I handle Alex? In the same manner?

Homer_Pimpson · January 15, 2003, 11:31pm

Hmm I coudnt help ya, I never play against an Alex.

System_1 · January 16, 2003, 8:39am

i couldn’t make this combo … is that a late j.short? early? please explain more. :lol:

System_1 · January 16, 2003, 9:16am

that’s not a combo - that’s a reset.

Arlieth_Tralare · January 16, 2003, 7:58pm

Skyl: That’s for you to find out, really. But the kara-EX uppercut WILL hit them from the other side if you do it correctly.

Answers to these will be posted in a week or so.

System_1 · January 17, 2003, 12:54am

I’m not sure if this is news, but Makoto’s standing Strong links into crouching Short as well as standing.

Master_Chibi · January 17, 2003, 1:56am

Standing strong = MP?
Crouching/standing Short = LP?

Just trying to clarify the terms.

Arileth Tralare: If you’ve downloaded the Link Encyclopedia from here on SRK, would you mind telling me exactly how to do the last combo shown as part of Makoto’s snippet?

If not, can anyone else do so?

SLICK_RICK · January 17, 2003, 2:56am

jab=lp
strong=mp
fierce=hp
short=lk
forward=mk
roundhouse=hk

and the last makoto combo in that vid was: s.strong, s.jab, s.short, jab hayate, SA1. It was done on Q, he might be the only character it works on, i’m not sure, cuz i haven’t tried it yet. It might work on a few others though, like Hugo, and Alex.

Master_Chibi · January 17, 2003, 3:14am

Cool. So now I can do s.MP, c/s.LK, dash punch, SAI. Very cool.

Also, those two s.MP linked together can only be done on a crouching oppenent (I assume as much, as was shown in the video).

On an end note, my friend plays with noone but Alex, so I’ll be ecstatic if that combo works on him. I’ll try it out.

Thanks Orochi Kyosuke.

erco · January 17, 2003, 7:18am

actually, the s.strong, s.strong link only works if the first one is meaty, thus allowing you to hit him later in the animation (and allowing you to recover earlier relative to his hit stun).

Master_Chibi · January 17, 2003, 11:22am

I went back to check the video (I had a nagging feeling for some reason) and I then noticed what you’ve pointed out. A meaty followed by another s.MP into SAI.

Now I know.

System_1 · January 17, 2003, 12:30pm

I must be crazy - couldn’t get the s.MP->c.LK link to work at all today. maybe it is a meaty, or maybe it was a fluke under impossible conditions.

In any case, I’ll keep testing, and if someone else could try it out as well, that’d be great.

System_1 · January 18, 2003, 4:33am

*Originally posted by Thongboy Bebop *
**Are you kidding? That should be an unwinnable match for Urien. Ugg, it makes me upset thinking about it.

Ok, the main idear is, KARAKUSA. Dash in, karakusa. Tick, Karakusa. Karakusa, attack, karakusa again. Urien’s pokes are mad slow, and most of them are high. Pressure him over and over, mix it up, and keep grabbing him and making him sad.

The EX otg Axe kick is also a huge pain, as Urien’s so goddamn tall. You can really axe kick all you want, not much to be done about it. Really, though, most of your time is spent karakusa’ing. Unless he’s reading your mind five seconds BEFORE you do anything, there’s really nothing to be done about it. Even when you see the karakusa coming, you have little choice too much of the time. You can karakusa tackles, you can do it through pokes, you can walk under a headbutt and kara again. It’s upsetting to watch.

Seriously, Urien should never win this match, outside of user error.

N **

what are you talking about? u think urien should NEVER win against Makoto? that’s bs. urien does fine against makoto, u just have to use your brain a litte.

SLICK_RICK · January 18, 2003, 4:39am

No way man, you’re crazy. Makoto rushes that shit down for fun. She totally dominates the matchup.

erco · January 18, 2003, 4:49am

it works, but the timing is pretty tight.

also, Makoto vs anyone without an invincible wakeup is pretty much in her favor. At that point, she dictates all the guessing games, and that’s really what makes her shine. You guess wrong, and you’re back into another guessing game after taking damage. Plus, she can dash in on urien at will really, and he has nothing to really keep her from doing so.

Gandido · January 18, 2003, 6:37am

…

I thought Makoto dominated Urien really badly too… but then I watched the cooperation cup. Tokido EASILY handles J. I know the point in this matchup is to Karakusa a lot, because Urien really can only headbutt it, and Makoto sometimes even crouches that shit. Try and watch that footage. I’m switching to SA1 for that fight so I can punish any tackles with Hayate xx Super, but I don’t really understand the matchup that well.

Homer_Pimpson · January 18, 2003, 7:38am

Its true

System_1 · January 18, 2003, 10:01am

Makoto doesn’t dominate anyone. No character dominates any character. This is not MVC2. This isn’t Cable vs. Hulk. But seeing how this thread is filled with Makoto fanboys, I can understand why you guys are saying stuff like this.

erco · January 18, 2003, 10:15am

you’re dumb.

characters are all inherently different, and because of that, will downright own certain characters. Makoto owns urien because she has the tools to get in on him and stay in. The fight is something like 7-3 in makoto’s favor. 7-3, in 3S terms, is ownage.

System_1 · January 18, 2003, 10:37am

so just because certain characters are different, that means that some will own others? then, that means Capcom will never make a balanced fighting game unless every character is the same. you’re a retard.

also, where do you get this 7-3 from? is this like written in stone? or did the SRK post gods come up with this figure? victory mainly comes from the player, not the character. until u figure that out, don’t talk to me anymore.