sf4’s FA is actually pretty cool but it’s too neutered to be used often. too much stuff breaks it and it’s usually unsafe. hopefully they’ll beef it up for the next version of sf4. the graphics are shit though in my opinion and the fact that every sf2 character has made a return for the billionth time and looks exactly the same is fucking boring. hype sold this game but i hope the second version won’t rely on that to get people to play it.
Agreed.
Poongko seems to be the only exception to this.
I feel the same way. This is probably the biggest reason I’ve been somewhat disenchanted with the game — I just can’t get used to the pacing in SF4.
I suck at SF4, too. It’s kind of odd in that in my local SF community, there are only 2 or 3 who are just as good in SF4 as they were in 3s. The rest were either either bad or okay in 3s and have adapted quite well to SF4’s style and there are those that were good in 3s but have sunken quite low in SF4. I fall in the latter category.
When I play against my friends who I usually dominated in 3s and they kick my ass in SF4, I just feel a seething frustration. I just look at my game collection, take out SF4 and put something like Ninja Gaiden II in :lovin:
I played HD remix and 3s in January. In anticipation of SFIV…thinking it would be the greatest game of all time. I played it religiously when it came out. I eventually learned FADC ultra, and all that shit. Eventually I hit a point where my enjoyment hit an all time low. So I thought I should go back to playing 3s since it’s my favorite game.
My problems with the game is I don’t like the sluggishness of the animations. I despise the flashy ultras, and how they are obtained. I wasn’t enthusiastic about the cast after a while because I didn’t like how they were in SFIV compared to ST. I had a hard time choosing a main so I stuck with SFIV.
The focus attack system seemed nice at first because it was a compromise for those that hated parrying. However, I noticed nothing could replace the mindgames that parrying bring to the table.
Also, the reversal window is way too long. I hated how I would try to go for meaties, and would eat an ultra. Since one frame links were impossible to do online for me I thought of the game as not worth the hassle. Especially since it became unappealing after a while. The music/stages absolutely blow in the game. This is of course my opinion, but I don’t see how it could compare to 3s.
My only problem is SFIV pretty much killed 3s…if you don’t live in Japan or California…
i honestly think sf4 is one of the worst sf games to come out. the only saving grace it has is how balanced it is. the game is very boring to play because their is really no variance in play style. Rushdown in sf4 is completely dead because of the number of 1 frame links and easy reversals ( from easy motions ). the game is just too defensive for me. yeah you can roll a bunch of morons by rushing them because they get nervous and slip up, but its not a viable tactic later on.
in 3s you have a huge variance in play styles and strategies, you have epic shit happening left and right. the game is so much faster, and the roster is much more diverse.
Both games are deeply flawed imo, yet both are fun. Though whichever one I prefer depends on my mood. SFIV encourages turtling and ultras are kind of a dumb concept, and 3S removes the zoning aspect (a bad thing imo) and becomes too random at times for my tastes. But I love both games equally.
As a guy who supported 3S back when NO ONE liked it (just randomly posting about it on GameFAQs and watching SlimX vids) it’s a bit sad at first. Realizing the game almost has no choice but to die out in the next couple years but I enjoyed those 3 to 4 years of success the game finally pulled through. 300+people at Evo 2k7 was GDLK. I just see a bigger and brighter future in not just SFIV (though SFIV is going to be huge for a while obviously) but how SFIV has inspired so many other new fighting games to come out and inspired people to play fighting games in general.
Competitively the GameStop SFIV tournament IMO was one of the lamest over hyped things ever for the current SRK fighting game community but in the end I see what SFIV is doing for the gaming community in general. To see just random people get that hyped for a fighting game like that…you can’t deny the power that will have in drawing people into competitive fighting gaming in the future. No SF game was ever perfect the first go around and it may take a couple revisions before SFIV is the way people competitively really want it to be. For the first go around I think SFIV was done very well and it brought in enough new and old school to generally grab people’s interest from a lot of different experience levels and perspectives.
I think the key with the first game was to grab people’s attention and remind people that SF is that game and you should be playing it. SFIV, 3S, SF2 any SF it’s just good and you gotta get some in. SFIV being popular just means that there’s incentive for all newer fighting games to grow as well and make the scene bigger and I overall think that’s much bigger than hoping 3S stays a big tournament game. I know there’s going to be new really good stuff in the future and I can always go back to 3S whenever there’s a tournament or someone wants to play. The playing field is just so much bigger with SFIV now and C.Viper is the best SF character ever.
I think 3s still has a few good years in it. There’s still a decent portion of the community that likes and supports 3s and if SF4 doesn’t pan out the way some want it to, I could see that portion of the community sticking with 3rd Strike and playing SF4 on the side. Plus, I’m sure there will be an influx of players to the game that jumped on board with SF4 as well. And the fact that 3s plays quite differently than SF4/ST could be a good thing for people who don’t jive with how they play.
Damn, it sounds like you’re attending a funeral. :sad: Hopefully, this game won’t completely die. Even with all the haters who cream over IV.
I WANT to learn games like Blazblue…but I’m still mediocre at 3S 
It’s hard to commit when I feel like I’m almost the 1st person to make such an attempt (esp. where I live). On the OTHER hand, I’m hoping that trying other, newer games (esp. from other companies) will help me learn new ways to think as I play old and new games alike. Knowledge can unexpectedly come from ANYWHERE, imho…it’s just a matter of how useful and interesting that knowledge is LOL…
I played a buncha other fighters over the years but I usually felt the games were too tough for me and I couldn’t improve much, too shallow/limited, or not enough ppl played them.
well, dude, just make sure you hop on GGPO because there are plenty of peeps that are learning like you or are at a pretty good level at 3s. Just avoid the D-bags.
I love 3S and no fighting game can ever replace it in my mind, but I also play SFIV.
I believe my signature is absolutely correct in how 3S stands to SFIV.
Well said. This about sums up the whole 3S vs. SF4 argument. But keep in mind that 3S was the third installment in the series, so it took Capcom three tries to finally get it right. Maybe SF4 will get right the the third time, but in the meantime, 3S is still the far superior and more well polished game imo.
Plus, 3S has the best fighting game soundtrack ever to this point.
One thing that will always make me like 3S more (among the tons of reasons) is that the two universal mechanics are completely even among the entire cast.
Parries work for everyone in the same way. You might not be able to punish very well with the entire cast but that doesn’t take away from the fact that parries are the great equalizers.
UOH’s, while some people can combo off of them (Remy, Oro, Necro, Ken, Dudely?), all work pretty much the same, also.
Focuses are not all created equal. Some have great range and some don’t. Some hit with an entire hit box, some hit with the smallest part. Viper’s, for example, just completely sucks where Abel’s is amazing. Sakura’s has great reach but is completely situational and can randomly beat low hitting ultras because it hops.
It’s just another reason that SF4 has huge discrepancies among its cast. I’d take Chun’s standing FP over random focus properties any day.
Also…I feel like there’s no true underdog in SF4. Sure, Sakura has a terrible match against Sagat…but watching a 12 or Sean beat a Yun/Chun/Ken is so amazingly satisfying. If I see a Vega beat a Ryu I just yawn and go rub one out.
3s is just a beast to me. Exciting gameplay, the ability to comeback from even the worst situations with the parry system, best soundtrack in a fighting game to date.
I try to like SF4, but I can only stand to play that game by using C Viper. Its so fucking slow. Thats the only thing I don’t like about it. Its so slow, it makes the game more defensive than it should be. I understand that its slow because Capcom wants you to play technical and just mentally fuck your opponent, but you can mentally fuck your opponent even better in 3s. Idk, I’m half sleep right now so I’m not going SUPER deep into what makes 3s better to me, but I have alot more fun playing 3s, to the point where I dread actually thinking about playing SF4. I still like SF4, I’m just hoping it gets sped up(SF4:Turbo anyone?)
BTW SBO quals was hype as hell. That was some pretty good paced gameplay in the Grand Finals with Valle’s Ryu, Combo’s Viper(OMG), Ed Ma’s Akuma, and Ken I’s fatman Ru. Thats how I like to see SF4 played, rush that shit down.
I dont have ps3/Xbox360, I love 2d graphics, 3s is very technical and reminds me of my childhood playing sfII, and the soundtrack is simply awesome.
To answer the posters questions, its because in terms of gameplay mechanics & characters rosters, SF4 is alot more like ST than 3S. 3S was as different from ST as night & day. Because of that, alot of 3S players dont like 4 because they figure it has no depth. I personally like SF4 but like most, I denfinetly think 3S is better.
Also, stop making threads like this in the 3S section. Youre pissing everyone off.
i played 3s and really appreaciate what it did for fighting games(and the community) and now i also love SF4, there is no reason that people cant appreciate both(and most do to my knowledge). but to the people saying SF4 is shit… really? lol. there is no way you can say being 100% serious and honest without being biased, and imo thats the bottom line.
well, saying a game is shit is an inherently biased statement anyway, so whats your point?
that is my point, and to just stop the hate lol. thats what id like to see but obviously isnt gonna happen.
imo people should be able to appreaciate all of the Street Fighter games separately, as differnt/similar as they may be there are plenty of good fighting games out there, alot made by capcom and alot by other companies. there is no reason to limit yourself to 1 game because of some kind of pride or inherit biased.