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[Tebbo]

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/grok

if you want to play the game, play the game. there is no substitute for experience.

[Naeras]

You’re just not used to the game. that’s all.

the people here are 3S players first generally. you really want to talk to people who played 4 then learned 3S since they would be able to explain why things feel how they do to you.

Hey, that sounds like me!

Bah I wish I knew what exactly the issue is… Ken and Dudley feel pretty good in general in terms of walk speed but they still feel slippery… Like I’m fighting the controls half the time. Part of the problem might be the need for more precise inputs as I plink everything in SF4/V and can’t double tap very well. There are times where I think I can press a button but nothing comes out. It feels like I get dropped inputs at times (though I’m sure it’s just my timing) I’m really inconsistent with quick rising and I can never wake up uppercut…

This gets better with practice. I know people who could do some of the most difficult combos in SF4 with ease, but still struggle with anti-airing with uppercuts in 3S because they’re so used to just using the shortcut. As for quickrising, I actually miss that embarrassingly often myself. You just need to get it down to the point where you’re not even thinking about it.

It could be that there are a combination of these little things that I’m not familiar with which are adding up to create an environment that feels really foreign. Things like hit stun, it’s never obvious how long the opponent will be in hit stun after landing a jump in, for example. Hit boxes aren’t super clear to me. Normals seem like they have more pushback on block. It’s hard to tell when my turn starts and ends; neutral and pressure sort of blend together for me.

Yeah, normals generally have more pushback than SF4 and ESPECIALLY SFV. One thing I can say is learn to use this to your advantage. So many people I’ve played with don’t understand how, but it’s a great way to set people up to push buttons at a bad time.
As for “when it’s your turn”… you can’t really think of the game in terms of “turns” the same way you do in SFV, or even SF4. It’s all very, very fluid in 3S. You constantly need to be in mind of what kind of options both you and your opponent has. This even goes against opponents that don’t know how to apply parries really well.

Oh, and jump-ins generally have very little frame advantage in 3S compared to SF4 or SFV. Unless you’re hitting very deep, or with something like Dudley j.HK, or managed to parry an AA, you’ll often not getting a full combo.

Sometimes when I’m trying to play footsies I randomly parry something on accident which throws off my rhythm… Also I don’t think I dash enough. I have this subconscious fear that I’m gonna run into a limb if I dash but it almost never happens… Basically I don’t feel free to move about at will.

I realize the only real solution in this situation is to keep grinding it out but… it sucks feeling like I’m the only person with this experience lol.

3S dashes are even better than SFV dashes on paper, lower input lag aside. You can definitely die from dashing at the wrong time, however. Learn to use them properly, (the first round of this set is essentially “how to apply dashing 101”) and learn to use the threat of them to set up people to use pre-emptive buttons that you can whiff punish.

Hope this gives you some ideas. =)

[ilitirit]

Anyone know of good online software for managing Danisen leagues?

[Chad]

meatspin.com

[BustyWallace]

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Hey your reply was awesome! Thanks for the tips/insight.

[benjidurden]

Appreciate all the advice that everyone’s given here over the years. Finally getting into this game so this feels like a goldmine of information, aha.