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Urien:

  • His stamina is a bit above average.
  • He has good reach in his pokes, so he can play footsies somewhat well if needed.
  • He has a very fast dash for a character of his size.
  • He has good reach with his pokes, which is good when you want to play a mid-range game while building meter for Aegis.
  • He has damaging corner juggles, which can be initiated in various ways. Against scrubs, you can catch them with an anti-air fireball and work your magic.
  • You can build a good portion of your game around throwing, since he has quite a few ways to be able to land it.
  • Aegis Reflector is undoubtedly his best Super for a multitude of reasons:
  1. It gives Urien actual offensive options to work with and lets him approach the character.
  2. Get the opponent cornered, and then throw out Aegis. You can score damage with simple high and low mixups, a throw, or just keep them trapped in the corner since it is very difficult for most players to escape.
  3. Aegis eliminates a lot of delay time in his Fireballs and Tackles. You can use this to make approaches with Tackles safe when blocked, or to help extend his Tackle juggles.
  4. There are also the NUMEROUS Unblockable setups available to you. You can potentially score 100% damage off of Unblockable setups. They’re not guaranteed to work all the time if the opponent is good at parrying them, but you will at least score really good damage.
  5. You can also build bar while doing Unblockable setups. Two stocked Aegis Reflectors can let you throw out up to three Aegis Reflectors if you do these unblockables, mixups or setups correctly.
  • Overall, Urien is just very fun to play. He sacrifices hitconfirms and guaranteed damage in exchange for a multitude of high-damage situations. He is based on some heavy execution, but the results are very rewarding. He doesn’t really need Unblockables or charge partitioning to win, but his most damaging opportunities come from them. You can also choose to be creative in how you play Urien: RX, Pierre, Senaka, Messatsu Yarou, and Ushi all play their own distinct styles but are very solid. All in all, a solid character who is deserving of being high-mid.
  • Urien is very tall. He’s pretty much as tall as Q, which isn’t good because that means his hitbox is also very big. He can also get crossed up pretty easily, which is bad against characters like Ken and Yun.
  • His wakeup options are not that great. If the opponent scores a knockdown and is right next to you, you will be pretty limited in what you can do. Headbutt/EX Headbutt is okay, but it can get baited and there’s a wide-enough opening for a counter if the Headbutt whiffs and he lands.
  • His pokes are decent as mentioned, but they’re not as great as they could be. Expect trouble against Chun, Twins and Shotos when it comes to footsies.
  • All of Urien’s EX moves are either not that good or worthless. EX Fireball will never be used, EX Kneedrop is only okay in surprise situations, EX Tackle is only useful as a juggle extender, and EX Headbutt is only okay as either a juggle extender or a way to set up a throw. Basically, don’t bother with spamming EX moves because YOU NEED TO SAVE UP FOR AEGIS.
  • I’ve said this for years, but without Aegis Reflector, Urien is just a better Q with a fireball. Pokes, throws, and the occasional corner juggles are all he has in terms of scoring damage. Be patient, or go apeshit. Either way, you’ll find yourself taking some chances if you’re antsy.
  • Urien can be a very technical character who’s based on execution. In the heat of the match, if you miss an Unblockable setup or a corner juggle, that is really going to be demoralizing. A lot of time, effort and patience is required in order to be good with him, and even then you’ll find yourself having trouble against everyone above Akuma. If that doesn’t work, then I’ll end things with a Rockefeller quote when it comes to Urien: “…we should just play Ken.”

I changed my mind; if I could relearn 3S over I’d play Yun. He gets too much free damage from Genei-Jin.

Urien’s stamina is the second best in the game unless compared to a Q with 3 taunts.

Urien has the highest natural stamina in the game(excluding Gill), but Q, Hugo and Chun(in that order) get stamina boosts higher than Urien’s after one taunt. Chun’s boost depends on her taunt variation, but if she gets either a back stretch or shoulder pat, her stamina will actually become the same as a 1-Taunt Q or 1-Taunt Hugo.

Hugo with 4 taunts is the 2nd best in the game.

So lately I’ve fallen in love with this game all of a sudden and have been playing it a lot the past couple of days. The problem is though, I don’t really have a main so to speak…In most fighting games I pick up I naturally gravitate towards a character and that’s pretty much going to be my main but in 3s I find myself interested in all of them a little bit but none really ‘grab’ me.

I do really like Oro but he seems pretty shit in the damage department and relies solely on cl.mp to set up juggles (into SA) which you cannot combo into which leads me to believe I need to parry into cl.mp or just get lucky with the hit by dashing up to someone or whatever? It bothers me a little as do like mah combos lol.

Initially I thought I would love the shit out of Urien and I kind of do…except I cannot play with full charge characters, I don’t understand charge partitioning and all that jazz.

You want to make the other player not expect cl.mp or be too concerned with other threats to think about it.
you have to look at the times and places where oro can really get some momentum going and figure out how to convince the other person to open up without being aware they’re doing it.

i wouldn’t say oro relies on that juggle. im not sure what you mean by cannot combo into because that’s exactly what you do.
it’s an important move for sure, but don’t let it overshadow everything else. because you need everything else to make someone want to open up which will make them more vulnerable to cl.mp.

His standing hk is so good, you can really make people scared to throw shit out because of how fast it can stun people. When they’re scared just dash up throw or cl mp (or even his sggk). Same works with his far standing mk, but it trades stun and damage for safety.

Instant air chicken stomp thing is good for baiting throws too.

Can anyone recommend me a few good Genei Jin combos for Yun?

found in… you guessed it, the stickied thread cluster in the yun forum.

What characters do you guys feel are underplayed as of late? I’m thinking:

  1. Twelve
  2. Chun-Li
  3. Ibuki

HM’s - Yang/Necro

[S]PSN sucks!
[/S]Scrubby Matchmaking: PSN Edition

This Forums PSN matchmaking thread, OP is a Chun, EricGGMusic hosts long sets and puts them to youtube if you’d like playing his Chun vs anybody.[S][/S]

Are you in the right forum?!
I’m not, what the heck was this topic again…

No but yeah, please see video threads for top class Yang, we’ve been hounded by Necro for a long time - and there is but 1 EatableTech Necro up now on youtube in addition to all the Artayes where Artayes didn’t put any of his steamrolls up - I think I’ll have to put some up of the same games that night with that Ryu and E.Tech Necro to show what he could really do with Necro, I did a few Ibuki trying to stay on the ground, got sat on. People troll with 12 all the time.

Chun Li underplayed, huh. :yawn:

Obviously Ken is the most underplayed.

lately online 360 is like 100% Akuma Urien and Ken. maybe some Ryu here and there. the longer OE goes on the more I find new Akuma players.

akuma is a disease.

According to him weakness is a disease and he is the cure.

I never know what the fuck to do against Ryu when I’m using Urien.
So annoying.

Just take your time against him until you have meter, then try to push him/get him to a corner. Your footsies will actually do well in this matchup since Ryu isn’t as dangerous as Ken. Poke him out while pushing him closer to the corner, then once you have a bar stocked try to find an opening to work your magic. Try not to get cornered by Ryu himself, since Urien sucks in the corner and Ryu has good mixups of his own. It’ll be a bit of a seesaw match since I think Ryu/Urien is dead even; just don’t be afraid and inch your way forward while keeping Ryu off of you with your longer pokes. Also, if push comes to shove, a parry or two won’t hurt too much as you’ll benefit from better damage opportunities than Ryu. Just wanted to point that out. :wink:

…:tdown:

Yun is just as strong, it’s just not as easy as it would be with Genei jin. Imagine Geneii Jin as piling up the damage in one combo, while regular yun is just a beast from the east.

I had to say that, I’m sorry. You are still my buddy.

No, I honestly do think that Geneijin is what makes Yun S-tier. Without it, he’d probably be between Urien and Ryu imo. That’s still really good, but not S-tier good.

But that’s just me talking. I’m not nearly as afraid of Yun as I am like…Yang or Makoto.

This is excellent information. Thank you for taking your time to help me.