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That’s bullshit, how are they going to tell via Xbox live?

Seriously, don’t post stupid shit. :confused:

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Well, a friend of mine who works at an indy game shop said that customers were calling in to complain about repaired consoles being banned. I don’t think that he really ‘modded’ them or anything. I don’t know how they would check though.

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I’d almost be willing to bet money on saying there’s probably more than RROD repair going on there.

RROD repair doesn’t change anything about the software or hardware state that’s detectable over XBL that would cause a ban.

Customer probably got it modded on the side after the repair, and doesn’t want to man up and is trying to blame the dude who does the RROD fixes.

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This is the general consensus, reviving an RROD’d console only gives it about 3-4 months of life before it dies again, permanently.

Since you’re getting a new 360 anyway, you might as well just let that old one sit around (maybe revive it one day when you want to play something on system link), or sell it as broken on eBay. There are a fair amount of people on eBay who buy up broken 360s for parts, or to practice repairing on them, or hoping that they strike gold and get one that is virtually brand new.

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I have a friedh who has a RRoD 360, I was thinking of taking it off his hands after I get my hands on a hollowed out arcade cabinet I am getting in January, and getting it repaired (I know MS has a newer method they started almost a year ago thats is supposed to finally stop the red rings).

A cheap ethernet port to wireless adapter later and I should be able to play 360 onmy Live account from an arcade cabinet.

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mine had passed the 3 year warranty (by less than a month) and i thought i would have to pay to get my rrod fixed. i sent it in and wasn’t charged anything. i remember looking through their website to look about the warranty and it said my warranty had expired. so maybe you should call their support line before you mess with it.

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http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/default.aspx?WT.svl=nav

Just fill out the repair application. Make sure you check 3 red rings. They will send you a brand new system. they don’t fix them anymore…

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:rofl: I’m one of those lucky people.

Bought a RROD elite console to fix up and mod for $40, it arrived and booted up perfectly :pray:

After my first xbox RRoD’d that one took it’s place, and has been working great for a few months since I just recently sent in my first one to get fixed by MS.

also :rofl: at the people saying that fixing a RRoD will get you banned. All that fix does is relieve stress on the motherboard and if it needs it…a home brew oven reflow, it doesn’t touch anything that microsoft can actually detect and ban you for (software/firmware)

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There are a couple of people in the Xbox 360 thread that this has hit, search it if you want to, heres one of the later ones:

It didn’t sound possible to me either, but it can and does happen (them being able to check over Xbox Live). But thanks for assuming wrongly and for the neg, you cunt.

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That doesn’t even make any sense, how in the fuck is it possible for them to detect that it’s been repaired, unless there’s something that just tells them it’s been opened in general.

Have they contacted Microsoft about that?

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If the 360 motherboard had any sort of way to know that the console has been opened, Microsoft would’ve used that to ban modders from the very beginning (as it is near impossible to modify the firmware without opening the 360), and the modification scene would’ve noticed such a failsafe and mentioned to it to casemodders and other people who would want to void their warranties for legitimate reasons(laptops and watercoolers.). Also, you would be reading a lot more QQ from the casemodder scene, maybe even read an article on kotaco about it.

People are just dishonest. :looney:

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also, if you send your shit in to M$ for repairs…
aren’t they technically opening and doing the same repairs to a unit that you would be?

if the system had some sort of detection based on case opening, M$ themselves would be falling victims to their own trap. I reeeeaaally don’t think that’s whats going on here…people are doing system mods for burned/dl games and not being truthful when their system gets banned.

modchipman openly advertises 360 repairs, I actually had mine done through him. I chatted with him a bit about his whole repair process, and while he said he has had customers that their 360 will not take to the repair, I’ve never heard anything about banning for repairs. I can almost guarantee you these guys are doing additional mods they don’t want to take the heat for.

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Well listen i fix these consoles all time for people. What will keep it up and running for the longest time is a BGA Reflow. That is how i fix them and i usually get at least another year for people depending on how well they took care of their system. The banning thing however is false on some terms. the only way you can get banned from fixing the system is when you plug it back in you have to pay attention to how the dvd power plug is plugged back into the drive and motherboard. If it is plugged in the wrong way that will result in a possible ban and or brick. Also turning on the system while you have no dvd drive plugged in will equal in a flag and multiple flags against the system will equal a ban.

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Actually they CAN tell but its not done the way you are disagreeing with.

You probably think that they wouldn’t be able to monitor your Xbox 24/7 through Xbox Live. But its not that they are monitoring the Xbox through Xbox Live at all.

Any Xbox Live patch that has been released lately can have a patch in it that can check your Xbox hardware to see if certain parts have been tampered with or not as soon as you boot your console up. Then every time you sign onto Xbox Live it will send that checklist of flags to M$ servers and then from there they will have the information they need to decide if they wish to ban you or not.

**Its the same way they catch people who use black boxes for free cable. **

And really, Microsoft isn’t usually named Micro$oft (with the dollar sign for the S) for nothing bro. Its the same shit as Wallgreens taking over corner store bodega’s cash flow, same thing as Gamestop taking over mom & pop’s old school video game shops, Footlocker taking over mom & pop’s sneaker joints.

They first built the Xbox’s shitty so that people would come back every 2 years and buy a new one. When they see the little people actually cutting into their little business scheme buy REPAIRING these shitty consoles and making $$$ off of it. Then they put out the patch to secure that the cash flow will still only go to them. Now if you want to get it repaired then you gotta go through M$. Makes perfect sense to me.

I’m gonna quote you, please don’t get mad brah. **“Seriously, don’t post stupid shit. :/”
**

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I can’t believe you think you can find a modified heatsink with no electronics in it through software.

Sleazoid hits the nail right on the head here.

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Dude, I’ve repaired around 200+ of these things. They don’t get banned for repairs. They get banned for being modded.

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Ok guys, I actually have all of the tools needed, so I think im just going to do this soon. Few questions from others who have done it.

  1. I toss the xclamps right? From what I understand, there is no need for them at all, and you just install new screws and washers to hold down the heatsink, correct?

  2. This seems like a seperate thing, but the penny trick that someone posted, does that need to be done if I just do the xclamp thing? Can I leave those little pads alone?

  3. So basically, fixing a RROD is simply opening the 360, removing the xclamps, re-applying thermal paste, putting in the new screws/washers, letting it overheat, then starting it up? Am I missing something?

  4. Modding the dvd drive - Its as simple as flashing the drive depending on which model I have, and no more. Correct?

  5. Do I really need to drill the screw holes bigger?

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Before you do it, I could suggest buying a new xbox? I know a guy on xbo360iso that sells Elites for $100. 1 controller, 1 hdmi cable, 5 games. He also does trades. Or if you want an xbox pro, you can get one from him for $75

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Heatgun heatgun heatgun. I wrote a detailed tutorial on my blog, so do read that if you want to fix a RRoD 360. This is tested. It works.

Let me explain a few of the more common fixes and why they aren’t as good:

Towel trick - This is a simple trick people commonly use to attempt to reflow their solderballs and get their 360s working again. By wrapping the console in a thick towel plugging it in and leaving it on for a good while, the system will overheat so much that it will start to melt the solder. As common sense would suggest, this is a rather inefficient way of getting to the solder and runs the risk of an electrical fire.

X-clamp fix - The x-clamp is a device that works by clamping down on top of the GPU and causing it to work by sheer pressure alone. I don’t think that it’s a bad fix, but again it doesn’t really solve the problem. Since the parts to do it are cheap, its worth buying but I’ve personally seen 360’s red ring even after an x-clamp has been installed.

Penny fix - inferior x-clamp like fix. It doesn’t really help anything and still requires a heatgun anyway.

new fan - many aftermarket fans increase airflow at the cost of noise levels. If you install a new fan, your system will run cooler but it will also be much louder. Still, not a bad idea. I have a Whisper max fan installed in my 360 and I’ve learned to live with its second speed noise levels.

Heatgun - Heatgunning your solder is the more direct and best way to fix your system. If you follow my tutorial, you can apply the amount of heat you need to just the specific spots you need it to without worrying about overheating any of your compactors and other motherboard components. The most important thing to keep in mind when heatgunning is to provide even heat to the affected area. Never just point the heatgun and keep it pointed in one spot for more than 5 seconds.

Hope this helps. best of luck to anyone who reads this.

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i like how he misspelled permanent twice (once in the vid, again in the description).