to be honest when playing a person/ team that relies on the assist to put in most of the work… i would focus on the assist more, especially sentinel, seeing as how he is soo large. Spiderman is unique in that, he can hit the assist while taking the minimum amount of damage from the point character… usually… but this is marvel, against magneto/ any assist spidey should definitely be zipping around hitting sentinel while calling your own assist to delay mags from laying waste to you…
best thing to do against magneto is throw web balls/ throws when you are full screen and try to bait him into a mistake… Shockwave destroys Spiderman’s aerial game, so only take to the skies under cover of an assist, basically stay on the ground and wave dash in or ground web zip across the screen so you can block if they decide to shockwave. Always have an escape plan too…
I’m not a Spider-man player, how does Shockwave destroy Spider-man’s aerial game? It seems to me that since Spider-man can block out of web zip and Shockwave would be too slow to catch web ball on reaction that the only thing Shockwave would shut down would be Spidey’s airdashes. It seems like throwing out Shockwave against Spider-man would mostly be a waste of meter.
There’s not many times where a super is the clear answer to anything. There’s probably like a few or more supers that are really a clear answer to almost everything a character does. Most of them being install supers or THCs involving other supers.
you absolutely cannot do anything on the ground against mags since his EM disruptor will just waste anything you can throw at him. web ball is too slow and too little durability to be able to stand up to that + drones. my team is lacking a fullscreen assist as well (shopping cart/jam session) so zoning can be hard to deal with.
Far too many people talk about things they don’t have enough experience of. Many people are comfortable talking about things they have no* real* idea about.
The people who actually know what they are talking about and provide proper reasoning for saying the things they do, and contribute useful thoughts end up getting into arguments with people who DGAF and speak in absolutes a lot of the time.
I read the thread still, but hardly ever post in here any more, but when I did post more I still only posted about what I thought I had a good understanding of (usually my main chars, tech I use a lot etc.), and even then I was really just looking to find other people’s ideas and feedback on what I was thinking. (This is the reason I think I’ve only ever posted one full tier list in here, because I cannot possibly feel justified in tiering the 45 or so other characters I haven’t played for long periods of time; I just don’t have the knowledge I feel is necessary to start placing them so easily).
I don’t mind people having far out thoughts and opinions, provided they also have their own reasoning for it which makes some sense. These posts usually encourage discussion and provoke thoughts about other ideas, however a lot of the time people are saying strange things with either no reasoning, or reasoning which doesn’t really add up, and before long a lot of these posters become aggressive in writing about it and often end up taking on the role of another troll in the theory thread.
It seems like a combination of the ever increasing numbers of trolls, the decreasing interest from players with the most insight to write about the game, and the fact that pretty much all but a few topics have been discussed in the thread’s history over and over again, which has lead to the decline in the quality of the thread. It wasn’t exactly amazing in the first place, but I’d love to have the old buzz that was in this thread back, and only a few posters in here give me that nowadays.
I don’t like posting about the thread itself either, I should really add something useful to the tier/theory discussion but I’m not feeling it right now… I might be back later with something.
I agree 100% with this. I usually come in here now to say something slick or ask a question about something now. I have never even made a TIER list here because I find the majority of players here would bash instead of try to understand.
Here’s a topic: Sentinel has been on plenty of competitive teams even recently (Infrit, Fanatiq, Knives, RayRay, Joker) but he seems to just get blown up by Morridoom. He’s a big target who stays out there for a while, and fireballs just happen.
Does a drones team have favorable match-ups against other top teams right now to compensate for that bad match-up?
I would say drones has a very unfavorable matchup against Morrigan. A good Morrigan will never let you call that assist much (if at all), and if she pops Astral Vision when you call it, Sentinel will die because he seems to eat more Soul Fists because of how big he is.
As far as favorable Morridoom matchups go, I’m thinking beam assists here to prevent Missiles to come out and characters with amazing start of rounds. Unibeam and Plasma Beam sound great against Morridoom on paper, but I don’t know how much durability they have. The only point you’ll really get a chance to kill a good Morrigan is if they mess up or at the start of round, so I think Wolverine and Viper should be good “counterpicks”. They’re not really counterpicks though, since if you don’t catch them at the start of round, you’re probably going to get lamed out (unless you’re playing Viper with a good amount of meter).
I’m of the personal opinion that Drones is ass if you can’t keep the pressure on an opponent to keep them from bopping Sentinel out of the assist call and killing Drones.
So what high level teams are easy to pressure, don’t have a beam assist/strider, or aren’t morridoom and you’ll have my answer right there.
edit for what it’s worth, I also don’t think anyone outside of maybe Knives is using Sentinel in his prime spot, and even he isn’t using it with prime characters, if someone starts playing Magneto/Sentinel/Dante I’ll fix my face.
Zero has a solo untechable guard break that actually only works against pushblocking. Without the pushblock you still get to run Zero’s ridiculous welcome mixups.
[details=Spoiler]After snap or just before incoming character comes in: M-Raikousen (horizontal lightning) xx Buster Cancel, M-Hienkyaku (horizontal command dash)
The lightning forces them to guard (or get hit and die) the command dash prevents their pushblock from doing anything, and for some reason there’s a very small window where a throw is untechable.[/details]