I can’t believe this thread is still going lol
I am going to play at EVO to have a fun and get some good matches in against man or woman. I play for the sport of it and to have the fun of good competition. If I get beat,it’s a good reason to improve on how I play. If I win,then practice has paid off 
Good Luck to all the ladies that enter it,should be fun.
All of you ladies and gentleman need to get along and lets see how good this tournament goes.
I don’t need to get along with anybody.
Friendliness is overrated!
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queen, pherai, nyoro: getting along is for the weak… haha.
sirlinfan69: lol, hilarious.
sirlinfan69 don’t be mean… I think you’d have trouble playing games well too if you had to see through 2ft of eyelashes and make-up to view the screen. ;[
Sorry I was swept away by the “friendliness is overrated” theme.
pancakes?
i prefer mines with aunt jemima syrup
never been to IHOP however
So basically any of the contestants on Rupaul’s Drag Race ain’t got shit on he… wait a sec, I think I’ll just take the easy way out and just 
. Queen, lets get some matches in on PSN sometime.
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I don’t think you should allow transgender. People like Jamie Austin who is hella good at Guilty Gear and probably SF4 too, became a woman, when they were born a man. Its like men who become women to win the Olympics, its straight up cheating.
How do you enforce that rule, though? “Hey, that chick looks like a dude, ban that shit son”
Unless of course male Evo-goers volunteer themselves to do physical gender checks. I’d do that, on a case-by-case basis. Colonel Volgin style.
giant hands, the adam’s apple, big broad shoulders … beard?
i do agree with j1n, its a move toward expanding and it does take away from that.
I haven’t been on SRK, in God only knows how long… and I see this. I commend those responsible for EVO. This is something I’m totally gonna do! I will not make the mistake of getting late into the SSFIV game, like I did with SFIV… Hope to meet other sistahs like me who are highly competitive. This will allow us to get the recognition and respect we deserve. If you’re a hard core SF fan girl, and don’t participate, you’re only allowing us to continue to be invisible.
First step to understanding, rather than hating, trans people: if they identify as female, then they’re female (by gender). If they’re female by gender, then they should be allowed to enter a tournament for their kind (females).
Men and women are seperated in sports because we’re born with undeniable physical differences. Men, by nature, have stronger arms than women. Women, by nature, have wider hips. Differences like these make physical competition thrown in favor of certain sexes at times; so yeah, if a trans woman competes, it’s likely she still has a lot of the physical traits she had when she was born as a man, so it’s not really fair. I’m totally with you on that.
But physical strengths/weaknesses from being a man or a woman have nothing to do with video games–which is why trans people should be allowed to enter if they identify themselves as female.
And Cocoumi are you as good at SSIV as you are at Halo? .84 K/D isn’t really something to brag about. ;[
I’m not hating, just pointing out a fact that men and women are born different, and those differences carry over if someone decides to have a sex change. You can’t “stop” being what you were born as.
So I have to respectfully disagree with you, and I think the differences between men and women have a great deal to do with video games.
Link 1 - http://www.mastersofhealthcare.com/blog/2009/10-big-differences-between-mens-and-womens-brains/
Link 2 - http://www-personal.umich.edu/~kruger/ep10.html
Mathematical Abilities: Men excel in this area, thus making it easier to understand things like Frame Data, + Frames, - Frames, Input Lag, Damage Output, Time Left, Joystick Notation (623A etc.). In Non-Fighting games, men can excel at things like Resource Management better (Starcraft), Number Crunching Levels (WoW/Any RPG) (Link 1)
Spacial Reasoning Abilities: Men excel in this area, making it easier to read a map, solve a maze, understand a 3d shape and its dynamics, key skills in any video game. Men would be able to understand spacing in a fighting game better than a woman, and thus excel better at “footsies”. An Arcade Stick also is a 3d shape which rotates and moves in complex directions to perform executions in a fighting game. Men with better spacial reasoning are better equipped to see how to manipulate a joystick in 3d space to get the required output. In other games other than fighting games, things like navigating a landscape comes much more naturally to a male, so things like Call of Duty MW2 a male will always have an advantage over a woman because they can navigate the maze naturally better than a woman. (Link 1 and 2)
Motor-Coordination: Women are better at “fine” motor-coordination with small objects such as an electrical wire or sewing. Men excel at “gross” motor-coordination, with objects that require force and speed. An Arcade Stick or a Game Pad are not small objects, and require difficult fast inputs to perform and execute commands in a fighting game. Systematic Mashing is often required in fighting games (Breaking a Throw, Plinking, Mashing for Extra Damage), which is something that requires force and speed, which men excel better than women at. There are many links that can be 1 or 2 frames, so the speed of input needs to be great, another thing that men excel at. (Link 2)
Pain: Women are much more pain sensitive then men are. Waiting for your match in a tournament in a room full of sweaty guys and no place to sit can cause discomfort for anyone. Women are the first to vocalize their pain and do something to relieve it (ie leave the tournament area and risk a DQ) (Link 1)
Emotion: Women are more emotionally sensitive than men, thus someone who is a transgender that was once a man, knowing this could attempt to “Talk Shit” to the other female player and provoke an emotional response, thus ruining the female player’s game. The transgender thus has no effect on their own emotions because they carry over the same emotional disconnect that males have, and now the woman has been placed in a disadvantage. (Link 1)
Chicks are far from invisible. There was a whole thread dedicated to pictures of girls at Evo last year.
If you meant to say they aren’t respected, the only kind of respect a tournament like this will bring to female players is the same kind of patronizing respect you’d give to a 6 year old for knowing how to do a shoryu.
Okay I had a response written for like half of what you said but my computer froze and I don’t feel like rewriting it so this response will be as short as the initial one probably should have been.
I read the first article and some of the 2nd one. Most of this I learned in psych and I believe to be true. Something I also believe to be true is these differences are so small, and so inconsistent from man to man, and woman to woman, that they hardly impact actual gameplay and skill potential in fighting games. You’re taking each of these points and blowing them up as if they have huge impact but they’re actually a very small deal and any disadvantages I have in playing against a man I seem to overcome without noticing.
Mathematical Abilities: Frame data is memorization and application and very basic addition/subtraction bro, not calculus. I’m actually really good at math and for months I tutored an old friend of mine who was garbage at math. However, his mental frame database is a lot larger than mine, simply because he takes the time to go on forums, experiment and discuss frames; not because he’s a man, and not because he’s better at math (cuz he’s not). It’s not like when you’re teaching a girl you have to be like “okay this is your characters 12-frame punisher… do you know what a 12 is? Can you comprehend that?” give me a fucking break.
Spatial Reasoning: Men have better spatial reasoning. Yeah okay. Video games are 2d. They’re on a 2d surface… even the 3d ones. -___- Spatial reasoning plays a part in spacing, SSing, and basic movement but the impact sex differences have on spatial reasoning is so small I hardly see it as a reason to justify separating men from women in a video game tournament. Also like I said, often times this is something that is easily, and unknowingly, overcome. I have a hard time finding a guy on a Halo map sometimes but it’s a huge stretch to credit that to me being a woman and my “lack of spatial reasoning”…
Fine motor coordination: I’m not sure where you got your information on fine versus gross motor skills, but pressing buttons is definitely an activity that is considered a fine motor skill, which according to you women should be better at. Easy way to remember that my high school psych teacher told me: fingers/hands = usually fine motor, whereas arms/limbs/etc = usually gross. Even if women are better, I don’t think it gives us a significant advantage… it’s pretty common knowledge ANYONE can mash. Also I think if you’re “mashing” to break throws you’re probably doing it wrong.
Pain: The articles are all talking about physical pain, which has little to zero relationship with video games.
Emotion: Uhh female gamers talk shit just as much, if not more, than male gamers do (from my experiences). If you’re really saying that women are so weak that a simple “you suck you’ll never beat me” is going to put them in tears and cause them to lose then you’re plainly insulting and discrediting us. I’ve had an ex sit right next to me and talk shit in my ear the entire game I was playing against someone else and I still came out the winner. I’m sure other girls have endured shit-talking and come out positive just as I have. You’re really jumping to conclusions on this one. You have to remember some men are more sensitive than women. A transgendered person probably doesn’t have expected “normal” male traits like the “I’m strong I can handle anything” mentality. But like I said (for all your points), it varies from person to person so much that making sweeping generalities like this is kinda pointless.
I think recognizing differences in men and women is an important thing to do to help understand one another (especially in relationships); but they are simply differences. Calling them advantages or disadvantages is just trying to prove one sex is weaker than the other; but with every weakness here, there is a strength somewhere else (read article 1 you posted). Your argument seems like it serves more to discourage women, rather than encourage them. I’m glad you posted because I love the debate (it IS a forum), and as a girl in love with science, I believe these differences to be true, but I also believe nothing so small (like slight differences in spatial reasoning) can stop me from achieving what a man can achieve. Bigots and old-fashioned stereotypes are the only things I see as a real barrier and they way you’re interpreting those articles is only promoting those negative stereotypes.
Also, you may think women are inferior in pretty much every single way (see: your post) and that justifies giving them their own tournament, but I seriously worry about how you interact with trans people. I mean can you honestly look someone in the face and say “you used to be a guy so you’re still a guy to me, stay out of women’s business”? Sex is only important when you’re… um… having sex with someone. In all other interactions we have with people, gender is far more important. I think you’re using these biological differences way too strongly and as a result you’re pre-judging people. And I think it’s a bad thing.
just reg’d for ssf4 and i did not sign up for the women’s invitational, so hah. now, let the games begin gentlemen. muahaha.
Man, that breezy is kind of scary!
Why don’t you go make your husband and his friends some sandwhiches, like you did when I came out to your house… You don’t want any of this, TRUST ME.
Your shit is only legit if you come in the ring…